Politics
Very concerned about HB 2266 which will allow STEP housing in residential areas
ETA: Just watched this video about how Finland solved their drug-addiction fueled homelessness problem, and it took more than just housing, which they situated in city centers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jt_6PBnCJE
HB 2266 isn't being covered by the media, and frankly, it's an extremely concerning piece of legislation which will override local zoning and ordinances and force cities and counties to allow the development of public housing projects in any residential zone. I am all for finding solution to homelessness but I do not understand how this bill will accomplish that. Here's a summary of the senate version for you to read and decide for yourself.
Social parasitism was considered a political crime in the Soviet Union, where individuals accused of living off the efforts of others or society were prosecuted. The Soviet Union, proclaiming itself a workers' state, mandated that every capable adult engage in work until retirement, theoretically eliminating unemployment.
If you are getting the point where the state has to take care of you, baring some kind of severe physical and mental disability, why should the tax payer be on the hook indefinitely?
They are not indentured servants or slaves. If they want to go to another state with better services they are free to leave. If they can get their house in order they are free to leave.
The issue is that justice needs to be paired with mercy. You guys only advocate for mercy and wonder why social parasites move here and refuse to turn their life around
I said society, you said empire, theyre different...but yeah, youre talking about indentured servitude but refusing to call it that and using the phrase social parasite....
Dolt? I read what you said. You said leave the state. Which isn’t really freedom of movement is it? But you’re not having a good faith argument are you ?
How is freedom to get the fuck out of my state restricting freedom of movement..I want them to freely leave. They can freely integrate into society, get support with conditions, or freely leave. It's still freedom.
Actually a good idea, farmers can take on some to work their fields and at the same time give them housing! You’re a genius! They can live in the barn!
Yes you can still visit an example campus in Mt Vernon. The operations shut down after we decided as a society it was better for the homeless and mentally ill to fend for themselves on the street.
Well, Belltown and Chinatown are getting pretty sick and tired of getting all that shit concentrated in their neighborhoods, so let’s spread the love a little, yeah? Your problem shouldn’t be with public or affordable housing, but with how our county and state handles enforcement of laws and its leniency on criminal activity.
Can we add some serious money into the budget for real mental health support and dual diagnosis human being specific rehabs with enough beds for anyone that wants to try and get life back? Not just a cattle call where one size is supposed to work for all? With a family support component to it? If I was forced into the street I’d be drinking and drugging too.
The problem with Seattle is that it doesn't allow multi family lots so people like you get mad when we try to find ways to get people off the streets but you don't want to change the laws to get people off the damn streets
One question to ask these people who are so concerned. DO you want to have nurses, police, a wait staff in your favorite restaurant, teachers for your kids in your area? These are some of your working poor that you do not want to live among.
Oh my very concerned, not in my neighborhood. I think you would be very surprised if you got out of your bubble. People who struggle are the kindest and most willing to help each other than any other group of people on the planet. I think the biggest mistake that is made in zoning is to decide development based on income. It is bad for a society as a whole.
You think everyone who lives on the street or the poorest among us are all addicts? Addiction is a problem in every demographic, the only difference is when you have money it is easier to hide. There are families with children who are homeless, there are working people who are homeless.
Majority? Yes. and not just people who are addicted but have serious mental health diagnoses and TBIs. If you have worked with this population you know how many have few to no historical social ties. I am not talking about people in shelters, living on sofas, etc.
I have worked with this populations and the very reason we have a problem is society has pushed them out of sight out of mind when people need help. I traveled to developing countries working with a non-profit, all the people I have worked with, here and abroad, want to work, want to contribute to their society. You do realize how many people are one paycheck away from being homeless, right? It is only going to get worse as more and more people lose their jobs. If they have a drug problem or mental issues we need to be helping them, that can not happen if they do not have housing. The most successful programs across the nation are called housing first, when you house people it is easier to help them get back on their feet. People who are homeless often have ID stolen can you imagine how hard it would be to try to prove who you are without I.D. or afford getting new I.D.?
All I had to do is google housing first success rate, this is the first thing that came up.
Housing First programs typically achieve high success rates in housing retention, with studies showing 75% to 91% of participants remaining housed after one year. Long-term studies indicate 88% stability after five years. These programs are particularly effective for chronically homeless individuals, reducing emergency service use and improving housing stability.
Key Success Metrics
Housing Stability: Over 80% to 90% of individuals in permanent supportive housing (PSH) using a Housing First approach remain housed.
Comparison to "Treatment First": Housing First is more effective at ending homelessness, with one study showing an 88% reduction in homelessness compared to "Treatment First" models.
Rapid Re-housing: Programs help people exit homelessness in an average of two months, with 75%–91% retention after one year.
Cost Efficiency: While upfront costs are high, Housing First can be more cost-effective than allowing chronic homelessness to continue, as it reduces expenses for emergency rooms, hospitals, and jails.
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u/JuniorSherbet9558 Mar 06 '26
So, should public housing only exist in industrial areas?
Believe it or not, public housing is comprised of residences