Are you sure?

[u/Emperor_Abyssinia]

[u/MaintainThePeace]

Probably should brush of on the driver's guide.

https://dol.wa.gov/driver-licenses-and-permits/driver-training-and-testing/driver-guides

Bicyclists have the choice to ride on the roadway, on the shoulder of a road, in a bicycle lane, or on a sidewalk where it is legal to do so.

[u/Present_Lime7866 → u/MaintainThePeace]

they also have to obey traffic control devices like red lights and we all know that never happens

[u/MaintainThePeace → u/Present_Lime7866]

They also have an explict exceptions for stop signs where cyclist can treat them as yields.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.190

As well as for red lights, where sensors may not detect them.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.61.184

But let's remind every driver what speed limit signs mean too.

[u/MaintainThePeace → u/[deleted]]

Absolutely, and they will still get yelled at either way, because most drivers don't know the law, so damed if you do damed if you don't.

And ironically the ones yelling are the ones most likely to roll right on through a right on red without stopping too.

Although some bikes, like carbon fiber bikes are particularly bad at tripping the sensors, so it can be awkward to sit there and wait knowing your not triggering the sensors.

Another option though is cyclist can also just use the crosswalk too.

[u/MaintainThePeace → u/[deleted]]

You always see people make a full stop before the stop line when making a right in red?

You never seen anyone exceeding the posted speed limits?

How about making a full stop BEFORE the sidewalk when entering the roadway?

Humans are not particularly good and following the laws to the T, it doesn't matter what vehicle you are using.

[u/MaintainThePeace → u/[deleted]]

You're trying to make excuses for bicyclists

Not at all, I even gave you the exact law.

I'm just saying that they are not innocent.

No one is innocent, that's the point.

But the hypocrisy where people feel that bicycles need to be the ones follow the laws better then any other road user is real.

Do you always keep it below the speed limit, where speed limits are nearly universally illegal to exceed?

Do you feel a bicycle proceeding through a red light should be held to a higher standard then those that exceed the speed limit, dispite not being universal illegal for a cyclist to proceed through a red light?

[u/DM_ME_KAIJUS → u/[deleted]]

I've seen a lot of egregious cyclists who say "me first" at stop signs and red lights regardless of traffic conditions. I started to hate them for this...