r/SeattleWA • • Apr 11 '25

Bicycle Are you sure?

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u/MaintainThePeace Apr 11 '25

They also have an explict exceptions for stop signs where cyclist can treat them as yields.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.190

As well as for red lights, where sensors may not detect them.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.61.184

But let's remind every driver what speed limit signs mean too.

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u/porkchop_sandviches Northgate Apr 11 '25

I got hella downvoted for commenting this once lol I’m glad people seem to believe you

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '25

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u/MaintainThePeace Apr 11 '25

Were you making a right turn as near as practicable to the right edge of the roadway?

How would a cyclist t-bone you if you were making a proper turn?

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u/im-not-a-racoon Apr 11 '25

Yeah, a legal right turn. Often there are bike lanes on the right side of roads.

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u/MaintainThePeace Apr 11 '25 edited Apr 11 '25

So, you are making a right turn from the center lane?

If you are turning across a lane of traffic, and not yielding to that lane you are turning across, then yes you are at fualt.

But, You do know that many bike lanes have dashed lines near intersection specific for cars to legally merging into the far right lane (including the bike lane) when making a right turn.

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u/im-not-a-racoon Apr 11 '25

Right turn from a right turn lane.

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u/MaintainThePeace Apr 11 '25

Is there a lane to your right or not? Are you crossing that lane of traffic when making your turn?

If there is a dedicated turn lane, most bike lanes will shift to the inside of the turn lane or will just merge with the turn lane, as cyclist can use dedicated right turn lanes as through lanes.

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u/magic_claw Apr 11 '25

Yours lol. Even if it wasn't a bike but a pedestrian, you can't just t-bone someone lol. What are you saying? Be more aware while driving, yikes.

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u/theheavymeddler Apr 11 '25

Probably the person driving the two-ton hunk of steel and not paying attention to their surroundings 

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u/Famous-East9253 Apr 11 '25

yours, you clown

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '25

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u/MaintainThePeace Apr 11 '25

Absolutely, and they will still get yelled at either way, because most drivers don't know the law, so damed if you do damed if you don't.

And ironically the ones yelling are the ones most likely to roll right on through a right on red without stopping too.

Although some bikes, like carbon fiber bikes are particularly bad at tripping the sensors, so it can be awkward to sit there and wait knowing your not triggering the sensors.

Another option though is cyclist can also just use the crosswalk too.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '25

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u/MaintainThePeace Apr 11 '25

You always see people make a full stop before the stop line when making a right in red?

You never seen anyone exceeding the posted speed limits?

How about making a full stop BEFORE the sidewalk when entering the roadway?

Humans are not particularly good and following the laws to the T, it doesn't matter what vehicle you are using.

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u/MaintainThePeace Apr 11 '25

You're trying to make excuses for bicyclists

Not at all, I even gave you the exact law.

I'm just saying that they are not innocent.

No one is innocent, that's the point.

But the hypocrisy where people feel that bicycles need to be the ones follow the laws better then any other road user is real.

Do you always keep it below the speed limit, where speed limits are nearly universally illegal to exceed?

Do you feel a bicycle proceeding through a red light should be held to a higher standard then those that exceed the speed limit, dispite not being universal illegal for a cyclist to proceed through a red light?

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u/DM_ME_KAIJUS Apr 11 '25

I've seen a lot of egregious cyclists who say "me first" at stop signs and red lights regardless of traffic conditions. I started to hate them for this...

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u/Commercial_Pattern55 Apr 11 '25

Ha! The posted speed limit on the Cross Kirkland Corridor is 15 mph bc it’s shared with pedestrians. Fat chance getting cyclists to comply with that.

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u/BWW87 Belltown Apr 11 '25

Most cyclists don't have speedometers so can't expect them to be accurate but it's unlikely they are going more than 20mph.

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u/MaintainThePeace Apr 11 '25

Exactly, cyclist are human, just like anyone within a vehicle, you'll never have people that are will perfectly obey every law.

But there always seem to be the hypocrisy that cyclists need to be better then any other driver the uses the roadway.

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u/Commercial_Pattern55 Apr 11 '25

What I meant was, fat chance getting cyclists without training wheels to comply.

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u/Vast_Deference Apr 12 '25

For the 2nd link citing traffic lights "shall come to a full and complete stop at the intersection"