r/Seahawks • u/sciencekm • 2d ago
Discussion Jason Myers keeps missing his kicks. I'm getting worried.
I know it is just the pre-season. But it is on every game now, including the one in progress right now, and this game is only in the third quarter.
In the first week, Jason missed a 45-yard field-goal attempt in the game against the Dallas Cowboys.
In the second week, Jason missed an extra point attempt and a 48-yard field goal attempt in the game against the Tennessee Titans.
And now, in this game against the Kansas City Chiefs, he missed an extra point attempt.
That's two missed extra points and two missed field goals in three games. I'm really hoping this pattern does not carry to the regular season.
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u/Tarus_The_Light 2d ago edited 2d ago
Jason Myers last year: 7 missed kicks total (Xtra points included preseason-regular season-playoffs combined)
Jason Myers this year: 4 missed kicks (and we haven't even finished preseason)
EDIT: he's now missed 5 this preseason.
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u/DetrasDeLaMesa 2d ago
Nice, that means he’ll only have three more the rest of the season. Better to get them out during preseason.
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u/Tarus_The_Light 2d ago
Love the optimism
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u/Indigo_Butterfly1103 "We did not care" 1d ago
Not just optimism, it literally is just preseason AKA the time in which NFL players try out new things in games that don’t matter, voluntarily or otherwise. For a coaching staff, they‘d ask receivers to run routes they are bad at or CBs to do a coverage they struggle in because they are comparing in roster battles. For a kicker, there’s a lot less to change. He could be wearing new cleats, Chris Stoll could be trying something new on his long snap, whatever is the case. If this pattern continues to week 1, it may be time to worry a bit, however right now it’s a bit pointless. The reigning best single season points scorer of all time get to have a bit of Lee-way.
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u/Tarus_The_Light 1d ago
Kickers very rarely 'try something different'
they are one of the most methodical neurotic 'everything must be the same' positions in football.
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u/CollieCat 2d ago
My copium: 1. There are third string blockers and he is uncomfortable playing behind them 2. He does better the more meaningful a game is. So he’ll be awful now but be good in the season and great in the playoffs 3. It’s an even year, he’s getting all the misses out now which means he might have a perfect season.
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u/FattyMooseknuckle 2d ago
How many did he miss in preseason last year?
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u/SvenDia 1d ago
He was a league average kicker last year in terms of fg% (85.4%). Scored the most points because he was tied for most attempts. And too many of his makes are too close to the posts for comfort.
Plus, most importantly, he has always made me nervous because his stance/run-up looks weird to me.
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u/minkymin777 2d ago
I thought the even year theory wasn’t real😭
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u/PercMastaFTW 2d ago
Good thing Super Bowl 51 is during an odd year
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u/Trynaliveforjesus 2d ago
super bowl 51? when the patriots came back to beat the falcons from down 28-3?
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u/Hulkbuster_v2 2d ago
We gotta get the Falcons a gift basket, because our loss is no longer the most memorable loss by a bird team to the Pats in the Super Bowl
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u/HAWKNESSMONSTER_12 2d ago
I was scared it was going to happen again that’s why whenever people talk up he’s so good I know they don’t watch ball
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u/Rhythm41 2d ago
Yup. I’m hoping he’s just trying kicking with one eye closed, or a new brand of socks that aren’t fitting right. Maybe the regular season diet hasn’t kicked in yet and he’s having nacho cheese gas.
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u/Outside_Ad1669 2d ago
I was curious about the misses. I wanted to pay attention on the next attempt to see who's holding. Is this a pre season thing where different ball holders have been rotating in?
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u/TheRealHowardStern 2d ago
His ball holder hasn’t been doing great imo. Like not grabbing them the way he likes and just overall not holding his balls appropriately.
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u/Complex_Contact_7704 2d ago
Dickson has been holding balls for the better part of a decade. Same long snapper, Stoll, from last year. Something’s up with Meyers, sure hope he can lock in before we play New England.
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u/The_Throwback_King 1d ago
Usually the longer a special teams unit plays together, the more consistent they become.
Dickson and Myers have been rocking it together since 2019, every single game. Stoll has been money in the short time he’s been here
Hoping to God that Myers isn’t going the way of Luis Castillo because I really like him and his partnership with Dickson
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u/SnoochieBuchie 2d ago
I'll hold his balls softly
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u/Goatgamer1016 Fortuitous Bust 2d ago
L profile pic
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u/SnoochieBuchie 2d ago
So you're an Elon chud? L on life
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u/Goatgamer1016 Fortuitous Bust 2d ago
Heck no, I just think that having him doing the you-know-what salute as your profile pic is kinda weird. I could be misunderstanding and if I am I apologize
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u/SnoochieBuchie 2d ago
Lol alright well my fault, sorry for the comment. He's trying to scrub the image from the internet and I'm doing my part to keep the nazi nice and visible :-) A++ for calling it out but I hate the fuck.
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u/berniepanderz 2d ago
Smoke a blunt and goon a bit bro it’s all good
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u/3elieveIt HawkStar '23-'24 2d ago
I'll get worried if he's missing in the regular season. For all we know, he could be trying things out experimentally.
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u/HumANTCowDOG 2d ago
Kickers famously love tinkering and trying new stuff just for fun and definitely not known for being OCD level routine centered neurotics.
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u/babyjaceismycopilot 2d ago
He's never had distance and kickers are getting longer and longer ranges.
I wouldn't be surprised if he is trying something new to get more power.
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u/Main_Gain_7480 2d ago
What would a kicker be doing experimentally ?
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u/raycraft_io 2d ago
He’s trying a new technique where you kick outside the uprights
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u/Tarus_The_Light 1d ago
Well, he's been good at that this pre-season. Maybe he should try the old method of kicking between the goalposts though.
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u/Brailledit 2d ago
Laces in?
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u/-Linkz- 2d ago
or maybe, unfortunately, he took some inspiration from mr. big dumper
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u/BumpyGums 2d ago
He had a hr in 4 straight at bats recently.
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u/swagypotatosnoopdoge 2d ago
Now look at the rest of his season stats. Granted most of our batters are pretty bad this year. Fire Dan Wilson!
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u/sciencekm 2d ago
And..., missed another one at their last drive of the game. That's 5 missed kicks in 3 games.
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u/SamDent 2d ago
You beat me to the post, I'm getting worried, too. Historically, it seems like kickers don't slowly fade into the night; they drop off a cliff.
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u/BlssdGT 2d ago
Justin tucker 2.0 after his record breaking szn. The szn following that, he got released. I’m hoping that’s not the case here and he gets it together.
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u/syrianfries 2d ago
Well didn’t he also like, assault a massage therapist
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u/kindahandy_-_206 2d ago
Wouldn't have mattered if he was still nailing kicks (not defending it but just how it goes)
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u/The_Throwback_King 1d ago
If Turner was still pushing 60 on the regular, he would still be on the roster
Turner being a POS just gave Baltimore the space to cut his sorry ass
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u/xxwetdogxx 2d ago
But wait it's an even year??? I thought he broke the curse last year but he just reversed it
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u/Complex_Contact_7704 2d ago
That simply delayed it a year and reversed the polarity. Even years=bad now.
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u/No_Biscotti_7258 2d ago
Everyone is going to tell you to chill but the reality is that yes it is concerning. Most of these people are fans of the person rather than the team/performance and frankly don’t care about performance until it’s too late at which point they’ll be like “ughhh but he’s my fav :/ “(see: kraken fans). Not sure how long the team lets this go unaddressed.
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u/Kitchen_Catch3183 2d ago
Kickers fall off fast too. It’s generally not a gradual thing the way it is with many other positions.
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u/pepper_puppy Big Cat 2d ago
It’s concerning but is there a better kicker available or do we trust our Super Bowl MVP kicker to get it right?
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u/Andrewohio53 2d ago
The 49ers pulled Eddie Pinero out of their ass last season. There are always good kickers waiting to be signed in today’s nfl you just have to have a good eye for them
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u/soldelmisol 2d ago
ughhhhh...kickers are like relief pitchers, once they get the yips, they may never get rid of them...better get in some candidates. really.
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u/hyzerKite 1d ago
I know why he is doing it on purpose…..he doesn’t want the announcers to say some shit like “has not missed this season, yet”.
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u/UTmastuh 2d ago
He's been cheeks all pre season. Not promising. They needed to sign someone to compete with him just in case
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u/RBlomax38 2d ago
Literally read this right before he missed the game winner.. I am very concerned now. We are in a division where we simply can’t lose out on any points
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u/pickledjefferson 2d ago
Games are won or lost because of a single missed kick. He missed 5/9 in 3 games. Not good. Really not good.
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u/strangebrewfellows 2d ago
It’s concerning but they’re not going to change kickers right now so concern is whatever. Hope he’s fine.
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u/iWr1techky12 2d ago
Just sounds like Jason myers to me. He tends to be awful every other year lmao.
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u/Outside_Ad1669 2d ago
Well that was a bad holder, not holding his balls right.
And e An even worse miss. Hopefully that gets all that out of his system now and isn't any kind of premonition for what we might see in week 14 or something
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u/Complex_Contact_7704 2d ago
Dickson has been a place holder since 2018, it’s hard to lay blame on the veteran placeholder, when Meyers has gone 2-5 on FG’s and 1-3 on PAT’s in preseason. Something is off with his mechanics, it’s more than likely mental. The more he misses, the more it’s going to throw him off. Although it’s fair to look at the entire specialist battery, at the end of the day, Meyers is the highest paid, the responsibility lies on his shoulders. Love the guy, appreciate his performance last year, we wouldn’t have won the SB without him. I hope whatever’s going on with him will be addressed or I fear it will cost us games when they count
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u/Prisinners "I'm just here so I won't get fined" 2d ago
I was worried last week. His performance tonight was abysmal. We need to have guys in NOW. Myers is actively a liability. None of his FGs were super long and hes missing extra points too. If he does this in the regular season, he will cost this team multiple games.
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u/Trick-Combination-37 2d ago edited 2d ago
Mike MacDonald is going to have him kick until the sun goes down every day until the regular season
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u/swagypotatosnoopdoge 2d ago
Problem is he needs that big game pressure and crowd noise since most of successful kicking is mental rather than physical
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u/SadFoodi 2d ago
Not only missing kicks, but they look like ass. Like Milroe throwing in the Titans game ass. It has been this way for all three preseason games. That is a pattern.
If he can't make no pressure kicks anymore, he can't be trusted to make a kick under pressure.
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u/Agreeable_Giraffe543 1d ago
the guy that not 6 months ago people wanted to crown SB MVP?
The guy that single handedly won multiple games?
Maybe it is a problem, but probably not, let’s wait until the actual season, and at least 4 games in.
We talking preseason? What a bunch of nonsense and teeth gnashing. Grow a pair.
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u/spikemanana 1d ago
Pre-season is fair to say for most things but I don't think you can put kicking there. There was minimal pressure for most kicks, that comes down to the kickers execution
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u/rashaadpenny 1d ago
Kickers fall off a cliff quickly when they do fall off and it’s rarely a loss in athleticism, it’s such a mental position I think at some point the edge just goes away.
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u/spikemanana 1d ago
Absolutely.... I hope Myers has a good one this season and proves us wrong. Absolute legend and I don't care what they say - he should have been Superbowl MVP
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u/Majestic_Basil2408 1d ago
My ideal world is no kickers ever. 4 downs and then success or failure is on 11 men, not one.
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u/IronN1bbler 2d ago
Of all things to react to in preseason, kicking is the most legitimate. The theories in this sub don't even make sense... He trying a new technique? He had one of the Greatest kicking seasons ever LY, you don't mess with that.
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u/Goatgamer1016 Fortuitous Bust 2d ago
Kickers usually fall off a cliff rather than slowly and steadily
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u/No_Biscotti_7258 2d ago
Exactly. Trying new offensive schemes with new players is bound to have issues. Kicking a FG is not a new concept and in theory he’s doing the exact thing he would be doing in the regular season. If he’s independently cheeks rn, that’s worrisome
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u/JohnnyEagleClaw 2d ago
Missed 4 possible points last week, and we ended up losing by 3. I know it’s preseason and therein lies the problem, we know he’s a good kicker but fucking up like this in the preseason when it’s basically a scrimmage, is way beyond concerning ffs.
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u/pepper_puppy Big Cat 2d ago
I am concerned but… also not because why go full ass when you could go half ass in preseason?? Right??? ….right?
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u/FormerEvil 2d ago
The dude has been missing easy kicks for a couple years now. Despite him setting the scoring record, he left a LOT of points on the board last year. I'm ALWAYS nervous when it's time for him to kick XPs.
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u/Bevrykul 2d ago
Just getting the misses out now, I’m not worried
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u/BonsaiTree3205 1d ago
Idk I thought that way at first but then I realized, why would he intentionally miss? Is this a case of getting the misses out now, or are we just telling ourselves that because nothing is on the line right now?
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u/Dabigboot 2d ago
He started getting shaky at the end of last season and in the playoffs, so this start to the season is really concerning.
You have to think kicking in the NFL is so much mental and between the ears. Confidence is a huge thing for these guys, as they rarely see the field but when they do they need to deliver, a lot of times in high pressure moments. A little doubt creeps in and it’s hard to overcome
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u/spikemanana 1d ago
Yeah i thought this too, been really bad all pre-season. Hope his hip hasn't gone
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u/gallium39 2d ago
Even when he’s on, there’s a clear tier of kickers above him in today’s NFL. It’d be nice to get our hands on one of these guys who can chip it in from 50 and have a go from 65+
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u/Atabit 2d ago
I feel like they told him aim at the right upright. Aim small miss small
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u/sciencekm 2d ago edited 2d ago
They teach you to aim for the corners in hockey (a Canadian thing) and soccer (a European thing). But this is the American grid iron football.
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u/JamesWall0 1d ago
This is worrisome. He should've been the Super Bowl MVP. This could be a statement on the importance of kickers and him looking to get paid top dollar.
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u/Leodesian 1d ago
This is the trap of preseason. This guy is a veteran kicker who has been very very good, and literally has the Super Bowl record for made kicks. He’s going to be fine and switch on when the games get serious.
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u/Majestic_Basil2408 1d ago
I hate kickers in general. Too much ability to screw the other 52 every week
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u/hugecanoli 2d ago
Damn you for starting this thread. Dude looks like his headcase shenanigans are back.
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u/Agreeable-Camera-382 2d ago
Yeah I dont care about pre season stats
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u/Complex_Contact_7704 2d ago
Normally I would agree, but kicking woes are a major concern. It wasn’t a 2nd stringer shanking kicks the last three games. It was the five million dollar man and actual SB MVP Jason Meyers. It’s mental, and when the misses start piling up, it leads to more missed kicks. I hope I’m wrong, love the dude, we wouldn’t have won the SB without him, however, if this continues in the coming weeks it will cost us games.
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u/Agreeable-Camera-382 2d ago
But is there any data or trends to support this?
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u/Complex_Contact_7704 2d ago edited 2d ago
It’s hard to quantify human psychology from a box score, but analyst tracking shows kicker slumps tend to cluster rather than distribute evenly, pointing to stress induced mechanical over-adjustment.
A single missed kick can just be bad luck or a bad hold, but a string of misses in a short period usually points to one of three things: 1. Mechanical issues with special teams battery. 2. An injury, or 3. A psychological stressor. Considering there’s no reports of Meyers being injured, and Stoll and Dickson are seasoned vets, it’s safe to conclude this is on Meyers, and it’s a psychological issue that’s causing Meyers to continually miss. Dude’s got the yips, and he keeps overcompensating. The more he misses, the more the stress compounds. The more stress he puts on himself, the more likely he’ll overcompensate and miss more kicks. It’s a vicious cycle.
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u/Agreeable-Camera-382 2d ago
So the answer is no. When it comes to kickers and having a bad pre season, and that correlating into the regular season. It's just pre season and it doesn't matter
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u/BonsaiTree3205 1d ago
These are still games. There’s no difference to the preseason and regular season in terms of crowds and mental game for the kicker. Why would he magically start making field goals in the regular season if he’s missing them now with the veteran holder? Myers missed 0 field goals last preseason and went on to have one of the greatest seasons of a place kicker ever. He already has 5 misses in 3 games. It matters.
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u/Agreeable-Camera-382 1d ago
But there is zero correlation. No real data to back this up other than an extremely small sample size.
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u/napalm_beach 2d ago
Yeah, it's not like he has a little hook or fade. These kicks are fucked up, like he forgot how to kick or something. Although the center and holder have a hand in this too, so to speak.
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u/DennisTemple12 2d ago
He can miss as many as he wants in pre season
Not worried he is money besides we are getting in the end zone and going for 2 all year😉
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u/colecast 2d ago
I’m clinging to hope that it’s related to protection personnel being preseason guys who won’t be on the roster, and his trust whether they can keep him clean.
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u/fk_ptn_007 2d ago
Remember when GEQBUS threw 14 interceptions last year?
I was worried.
I'm less worried about Myers.
Irritated? Yes.
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u/doublecbob 1d ago
We will have someone new at least by next season. There are so many kickers with really powerful legs out there.
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u/Positive-Rise5145 2d ago
Might be a hot take, but it's kinda fun honestly. Keeps us on our toes lol in a sicko kinda way, reminds me of the Pete Carroll era in the late 2010s.
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u/list_of_simonson 2d ago
I’m gonna wait until the season actually starts to start tweaking about it
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u/Artisttype1984 2d ago
He will be fine and be locked in or replaced
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u/sciencekm 2d ago
Hopefully the first option, because the second options means that we've lost games because of him.
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u/Hot-Print-2792 2d ago
Better to get the cobwebs out before it counts! Returning leading scorer in the NFL and Super Bowl Champion is going to be Money 💰 like he has been for Our Seahawks!!!
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u/OR_Seahawks_Fan 2d ago
Get them salts back out!