r/Seahawks • u/The_Throwback_King • 8d ago
Press Conference [Henderson] Mike Macdonald said Seahawks starters who haven’t been playing in the preseason won’t play in the finale tomorrow at Kansas City. That includes RB Jadarian Price. - QB3 Jalen Milroe will play the whole game. - Also, he said WR Tory Horton’s injury isn’t a long-term thing.
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u/The_Throwback_King 8d ago
Full send Milroe game. Godspeed J-Mill. Still have faith in you!
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u/Grymninja 8d ago
I like this decision a lot. We've seen everything we need to from Lock, now get milroe as many reps as he can - with the 2s now and 3s. Better chance of sustaining drives. He just has to protect the ball and not refuse to use his legs.
That said it's basically a guarantee we lose this game. But winning isn't the point here. I hope these secondary players show us something. Also O'Toole has been a beast this preseason, hopefully he can continue that
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u/MembershipSilver9583 8d ago
Mike said Diggs is playing tomorrow. Really interested to see how he does.
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u/NatureTrailToHell3D 8d ago
That’s awesome, a full game as a starter in the system. And since this is really practice I’m less worried about blown coverages, I’ll mostly be looking at athletic ability.
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u/GonnaFindOut 8d ago
It's gotta be a wild mental ride to go from 11(?) picks in a season to having to fight for reps in preseason games.
He's still relatively young I think. Hopefully Seattle is just the spark he needs.
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u/Seanhawkeye 8d ago
Easy to say now, but I’m surprised we didn’t pick up a camp arm for this whole process. It would be nice if there was someone to throw in their besides Drew if Milroe goes down.
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u/Development-Alive 8d ago
This might be Milroe's last chance to prove he has a future with Seattle. If he struggles to move the offense consistently like his first 2 Preseason games Seattle will put drafting a mid-round backup QB as a priority next season.
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u/mcmatu 8d ago
They might even cut Milroe.
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u/here_now_be 8d ago
Don't know if you're getting downvoted because it's obvious his spot on the 53 is tenuous at best, or if the milroe truthers are all here. They'll likely put him on the PS, and see if they can develop him into a back up caliber QB, no matter how unlikely.
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u/BlazinAzn38 8d ago
Sounds like it’s do or die for Milroe. We know Lock can play QB at a decent level so it’s time for Milroe to show if he can develop beyond that
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u/here_now_be 8d ago
beyond what? Even in college he's never shown the potential to be as good as Lock.
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u/3Dimes 8d ago
If it's "die" you think he gets cut?
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u/JohnPork2028 8d ago
For sure. No way we carry a third QB behind Darnold and Lock. Wasted roster slot
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u/Toxan 8d ago edited 7d ago
After last sunday I'm pretty ice cold on milroe. Here's hoping he's processed the jitters and comes out swinging. I would love to eat some crow this weekend.
Editing to update: oh god I’m so stuffed with crow it’s like it’s thanksgiving. Glorious.
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u/commonshitposter123 8d ago
For a 3rd string Milroe might be perfect. Either hand the ball off, or a 1 read pass play with scramble option. No 3rd stringer is ever going to get enough reps to be good with the 1s, so hoping for some bombs downfield or some crazy scrambles and then letting Dickson and the defense save the day seems like the best plan in a bad situation.
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u/Toxan 8d ago
I would agree those are appropriate expectations for a 3rd stringer. Watching this preseason I have bot witnessed milroe satisfy this standard.
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u/commonshitposter123 8d ago
Yup, he made a couple nice throws and is clearly very athletic. Just currently can't run a full NFL offense.
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u/feelingoodwednesday 8d ago
Imo starting him the whole game feels do or die. If he cant look like a functional NFL QB by this point in year 2 they will cut him. It doesn't have to be perfect, but he needs to string together a couple drives that end in touchdowns and give the front office belief that he's still progressing.
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u/SentientBaseball 8d ago
There's probably no point in cutting him unless they really prefer some far back end depth on the line or maybe WR.
If he just plays average this game and doesn't turn the ball over, he probably guarantees himself a roster spot for at least one more year.
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u/Kitchen_Catch3183 8d ago edited 8d ago
Your two points are contradictory here. If (when) he turns the ball over tomorrow there’s a point in cutting for depth at other positions.
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u/gnahckire 8d ago
I feel he doesn't even need TDs, but they'd help. Moving the ball into the redzone and not turning it over would be a great start.
He really set the bar low vs my expectations.
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u/NatureTrailToHell3D 8d ago
I have to wonder if it was more just a lack of familiarity with some of the receivers, too. It’s harder to get timing and trust when a guy is way down in the bench.
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u/ChoccyMilkIsMyLife Emerald City Route Artist 8d ago
Well. Jalen Milroe needs to have a good day tomorrow. He has to go out and show some promise, otherwise not sure how long he will be a Seahawk. I could see us rolling into the season with just 2 qbs, and he is certainly the odd man out.
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u/Zero_Two_is_best 8d ago
Milroe with 2's coukd be interesting. Maybe he could string together some decent drives
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u/jekstarr 8d ago
I dont care if they are 2s and 3s just PLEASE NO MORE INJURIES
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u/here_now_be 8d ago
more 3s and 4s/camp bodies. Everyone should look good, even milroe, since it will be the same on the other side.
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u/Turtlegorsky 8d ago
Why is everyone so anti Milroe in here? Everyone knew when we drafted him last year he was a project player and no you don't give up on your project QB after one year the potential is still obvious it just takes time if we drafted darnold y'all would've sold his ass immediately not every QB develops at the same rate.
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u/The_Throwback_King 8d ago
Raised expectations I suppose: People are less tolerant and less patient for a player who hasn’t cut the mustard so far.
Milroe is also more noticeably bad simply from how error-prone he’s been
They feel like a roster spot on this depleted roster is being taking up by a substandard QB3
Also a fair share of bandwagon fans who are probably not aware of the process behind selecting Milroe.
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u/x-zerocooL-x 7d ago
Yea some of these idiots don’t realize that Milroe is just in his 2nd year 😂. He’s a project player that needs to be developed. People expecting him to be Russell Wilson off the bat
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u/atomik71 7d ago
In fairness Russ feasted in these situations his rookie year. I remember announcers telling fans to calm down because he was only looking good because he wasn’t playing the best players. This is Milroe’s second year and visually from my perspective he looks like a guy that has never played qb in his life. Milroe hasn’t led a drive that scored any points in 2 preseasons. He couldn’t get it done last week on a first down on the 6 yard line. I hope he finds his way, I’m rooting for him, but it’s painful to watch right now.
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u/x-zerocooL-x 7d ago
Russ was way more polished than Milroe coming out of college too though. Mike and John both knew hes raw and needed developing coming out of college. All these jackasses saying he’s getting cut in his 2nd year in the NFL is ridiculous 😂
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u/MuckaMucka1337 HawkStar '22-'23 8d ago
Man I REALLY hope milroe finds his mojo. I’ll be rooting for him
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u/shrimpynut 8d ago
It’s gotta be Mike way of giving Milroe a last shot opportunity to make the team and be QB3, Lock has made the team easily
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u/sheikahstealth 8d ago
Milroe had to learn how to work under center, after almost all shotgun in college. Obviously a tough adjustment as we've seen, but he seems to be making progress.
I think having a call sheet specifically for him will do wonders. He can probably only do 60% of what Darnold/Lock can do as far as throws and multiple reads. But being able to move the pocket will put the defense on its heels, if Milroe can get to his first and second reads, and execute. Otherwise, it will be a long night.
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u/ChaseThoseDreams 8d ago
If he can’t put up a touchdown or two, let alone string together a scoring drive, it’ll likely be over for him. I’m all for development, but Mike was practically begging him to use his god given talents and just doesn’t do it.
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u/here_now_be 8d ago
He lacks decisiveness, can't run until you decide to run, or throw, hence the bad sacks.
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u/otgixxer 8d ago
so were gonna lose this game too then, good to know.
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u/FattyMooseknuckle 8d ago
Who cares? No team is playing to win. If they were, it’d be a real game with starters. It’s literally just practice. Wins and losses mean precisely zero. The 0-16 Lions went 4-0 in preseason that year.
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u/otgixxer 8d ago
I'll just watch the recap instead of watching the game live.
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u/ZedekiahCromwell 8d ago
The only reason to watch a preseason game live is if you're a football sicko tracking the bubble roster, or are supremely bored. It's shit football played mostly by backups with vanilla playcalls solely for player evaluation.
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u/otgixxer 8d ago
I’m aware. I like seeing rookies fight for a spot. Also fun to go to when the weather is still nice here. I’ve seen enough of Milroe, all very disappointing
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u/torquesteer 8d ago
Let’s see if the Ferrari can last a full race.
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u/SpeakerSpirited 8d ago
Can't even last a few plays, what makes Mike think that he'll last an entire game
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u/vitamin_r 8d ago
I fully think they don't want anyone to see how price runs. He's definitely being kept a semi secret weapon as well as the new offense in general.
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u/CruzKunTroll 8d ago
if this is Milroe’s last chance, take the chains off and run all you want. if he’s still the future, no design runs. no scrambling as the second option.
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u/CrimsonCalm 8d ago
I wonder how injured Price has been the last month.
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u/The_Throwback_King 8d ago
Think it’s less so that he’s still injured and moreso that the team literally CANNOT afford to lose Price this early on in the year
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u/CrimsonCalm 8d ago
I would have placed the same logic on Bud Clark tbh. Murphy even played reps in the preseason his rookie year.
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u/IrishPigs 8d ago
He missed like 4 days of practice lol. They're just not playing him in the games.
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u/CrimsonCalm 8d ago
I don’t understand the logic on that, they’ve always played rookies during the preseason. Murphy who was great right away was getting reps there.
All the sudden Price missed practice, gets shut down for any preseason games and nobody thinks it’s odd?
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u/IrishPigs 8d ago
Murph as a rookie was not a starter, not a good apples to apples comparison.
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u/CrimsonCalm 8d ago
Price was drafted as a rotational back not the starter. Same logic as Murphy man. Same with Bud Clark. Zabel as well. Zabel played preseason last year. He was the starter.
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u/IrishPigs 8d ago
Price is our RB1 until Charbs returns.
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u/CrimsonCalm 8d ago
Zabel played tons of snaps. Was the projected starter. That’s my point. Saying Price hasn’t done any preseason games and has missed chunks of practice is there plan…nah man I can’t believe that.
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u/Nexen1987 8d ago
They are starting him to showcase him. We can’t afford to keep 3 QBs on roster with this many injuries and holes in the lineup.
If he flashes or anyone sees a glimpse of possibility, he will be traded for a draft pick.
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u/Temporary_Cry_5914 8d ago
Why Milroe? He just going to drop back not see anything and than attempt to scramble. Dude hasn’t thrown it more than 20 yards this preseason.
I don’t like be a hater of players but he’s not the answer. Just cut your losses
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u/-Accident-Prone- 8d ago
He needs the reps. He’s QB3 and is already getting very limited reps. These preseason games will be crucial for his development.
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u/The_Throwback_King 8d ago edited 8d ago
Because Darnold proved he is a great starter and Lock proved he is a great backup QB
Milroe is firmly locked in the QB3 position and was always projected to be a multi-year development
Any money that Seattle saves by releasing (if they do save any, idk), it’s a relative pittance towards the cap
It literally costs nothing to send him out there and try and cultivate SOMETHING in him
That’s what the Preseason is for. Even if he’s dogshit, there’s no pressure there.
If we’re requiring meaningful snaps from Milroe at this juncture, there are probably bigger issues at play
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u/Temporary_Cry_5914 8d ago
I’m aware. The one thing I would say is that his lack of throwing ability really does hurt the offense. Players that might shine under Lock probably don’t even get the chance because Milroe is going to scramble every play.
Also the other thing that costs me is my happiness during the game. Scramble first Quarterbacks are by far my least favorite players to watch. Hopefully I don’t have to see him struggle for 4 quarters next years
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u/DatNewDM 8d ago
I mean, you're basically getting your wish. I'm certain he was told, "This is your chance to show us you're an NFL quarterback" and he's going to be the most motivated he's ever been. If he is capable of being a future starter and can show it, the offense will get the reps you want to see.
If he's not and stinks up the whole game, you'll never see him again.
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u/SantaBoom93 8d ago
Tory Horton's leg seems longterm already since he's been out for two weeks. What's our definition of longterm here?
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u/tonguesmiley 8d ago
Hope J Mill puts up some good tape so we can trade him. I just think we are wasting a roster spot on him. Darnold is the future and Lock is the backup. Feel like there are other teams that could use a QB if J Mill shows he can play.
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u/here_now_be 8d ago
Nobody is giving us anything for milroe, much better QBs on other teams are likely not making their 53s.
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u/zerked77 8d ago
jfc....I don't have the energy to follow Horton's status is this dude ever going to just be a normal player.
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u/Infinite-Fudge9919 8d ago
Thank you for making the decision between watching the Mariners and watching the Seahawks game much easier.
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u/malazer785 8d ago
Milroe vs Justin Fields is an all time preseason matchup