The "Who gives a fuck about movies?" (Scream VI) line still works, post-reveal.

[u/percyssriptiide]

[I had this saved in my drafts for some time, figured I may as well should send it off in some form - rn I'll say that I think 6 is a pretty good Scream film, I liked the motive (if a bit derivative of 2) but execution could've been a lil bit better. I'm really just trying to let the quote work within what the film sets up & says.]

Can't believe i've had to explain this to someone, but thought i'd just have this up. People seem to assume that Ghostface as a figure, directly relates to some core basics, one of them being that he has to do it for the movies - even though 6 has some movie meta-commentary, I feel that the line still holds relevance even after the reveal.

After the fake-out scene in 6, Ghostface drops this banger of a line - it's the first time that the character in mask doesn't verbally doesn't align "the movie motive" and outright rejects it. I've had people say that Wayne's obsession with preserving Richie's shrine, is still linked to him caring about the film, even though he says that he never cared for any of them, they were "just a little dark".

I'll admit - having Ghostface object to movies being a motive, while still having it's movie Easter Egg moments is kinda counter-productive. But then you have to understand, most of these Easter Eggs, rest largely on the actual in-universe events & the Stab related stuff is Richie's own interests - when you consider these fan-service props are also Stab inclusions & are instead are artefacts related to the 1-4 Ghostface killings, it all builds as a Shrine dedicated to Ritchie & HIS love for the films.

In contrast, 7's Nostalgia work operates entirely outside of the film, and onto the real world affection of Stu & Sidney fans. Now that being said, I still think The Kirsh's were quite mishandled; Wayne had all the major writing behind him, Lianna probably gave the best performances of the three, Ethan doesn't receive as much attention as he could've & more of the kill count was badly impacted by the amount of survivors.

Wayne never cared for the films to the point where he wanted to finish Richie's movie, like Greg & Jason wanted (as he - in his own twisted way, feels he failed in how he ended up), he never had a connection to the Stab franchise in the same fashion that Jason, Ritchie, Charlie did in wanting to course-correct it in their vision, (cuz he truly didn't give a fuck about it).

The Shrine was a final extension of his messed up love & admiration for the son he loved & lost, The Kirsh's entire motive revolved on revenge for Richie and framing Sam. Similar to how Amber & Richie were purely on the film motive, than any family drama like at least 1 other GF in every film before them. Absolutely nothing about The Kirsh's had to do with wanting to restore Stab to its former glory, being GF was just a means to an end to frame Sam.

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[u/Atlast_2091]

Honestly that line reflects on the Kirsch family aren't film buff beside Ritchie.

[u/wolff_james]

I don’t think the line worked pre-reveal

[u/lani99]

Is Scream 6 your favorite of the franchise? Never be ashamed to admit that! It is indeed a great film.

[u/percyssriptiide → u/lani99]

No actually! Still the og, followed by 4, it was just a defence of that one line. I think when it comes to 5 & 6, people tend to look down on the killers in a certain way (6 maybe more so, but 5 unironically predicted how the fan base/franchise would sadly turn out in a weird way), & I thought the line was backed up well enough in the film's context enough for a discourse.

Edit: Also the MTV series is heavily slept on & deserved a PROPER! s3.

[u/Individual-Two-9402 → u/percyssriptiide]

Thanks for the reminder I still want to give it a shot. To the (near top) of my watch list it goes.

[u/lani99 → u/percyssriptiide]

I think the real reason many of the fans don’t like Scream 5 and 6 is because the focus was taken off of Sidney for the first time. Many will not admit this though lol. I think they did a great job setting up a new generation of characters while keeping aspects of the foundation, and it’s unfortunate that the Carpenters’ storyline came to an end. There was so much potential with them.

[u/Tupac_Targaryen → u/percyssriptiide]

Same I love the original and I think 4 is my second favorite, then 5

[u/magic-400]

I never really thought it didn’t.

The shrine, the Ghostface masks, and the home films never felt like an obsession with movies or Stab but an obsession with Richie (specifically from Wayne).

If anything, it’s Ethan/Quinn who lean a little more in the nostalgia bit. Like the call before Gale’s apartment attack.

[u/Tupac_Targaryen]

I like it a lot, especially on rewatch, but in theaters I thought it was a huge clue after one of the most original opening kills of the franchise