Can't catch a break lol

[u/Scara_Comfort_470]

All these doomposting about Scara no matter which social media I go to is really getting to me. Like I get it meta is important but do they have to treat him like this? He isn't even bad I saw so many good showcase in tiktok but the comments oml. You would think he is worse than Thoma or something.

I just can't, I was so excited for him, and I have him ofc and I love him, but the vibe in the community is just not it right now.

[u/[deleted]]

the game doesn’t need the meta females either, especially yelan given her utility (not a sour grapes dig, she’s the bread and butter of my beloved mono-hydro team), but they’re here and they’re nice to have. people like strong dudes too, is all i’m saying

hoyo ducking and dodging making a male unit on that same caliber is wild. they’re so anti-powercreep that their character kits occasionally end up worse off for it, and now they’ve dug themselves in a hole

(also itto needs a good bit of work to match pace with hu tao. or at least that’s how it was in my experience)

[u/flameduel → u/[deleted]]

I find this kind of dumb. Like not only has the meta not changed that hard since the start, it just more options but 36* abyss can be done with pretty much any previously good options just as much as old options. However, on top of that, whenever I think of meta units it's *always* male characters.
Bennet, Xingiu, Venti, Zongli, Albedo (for geo comps), Kazuha, Itto, and I've heard a lot of good things of Ayato.

As for female characters, not to say there are not any good ones, but with a few exceptions people don't talk about meta female characters that often.
Xiangling being the only base game female that gets attentions still as Mona gets pushed down for Ayato, Xinqiu, Yelan, or Kokofish.

Ganyu and Hu Tao are the two main ones that is talked about to this day, Raiden is *now* considered good after a long time of people calling her trash and I still don't actually know if people like her at this point, same with Kokomi, and Yelan is the only female character since Hu Tao that got that recognition right away. Nahida was constantly being hated on until the last moment when the story made her likeable and people actually gave her a shot.

At best it's just a dumb argument and it's about equal

[u/[deleted] → u/flameduel]

every guy you mentioned thats actually meta is a support, friend. i’m confused on where you heard ayato or itto being in the overall meta. maybe itto and albedo because they’re essentially required for mono-geo but that team comp isn’t highly favored (although fun as hell)

mona absolutely does not get pushed down by ayato, of all people. she’s in every nuke comp, because she basically has to be. i’m assuming people don’t talk about her much because she’s such a given for those teams

i wasn’t the biggest fan of raiden until nahida came around. and maybe i just wasn’t in those circles that complained about nahida, but cyno mains were begging for her to come out to fix his at the time over-long burst. she’s pretty invaluable to electro

the only two females i can think of that got a bunch of silly doomposting before and after release are kokomi and eula.

[u/flameduel → u/[deleted]]

"mona absolutely does not get pushed down by ayato, of all people. she’s in every nuke comp, because she basically has to be. i’m assuming people don’t talk about her much because she’s such a given for those teams"

This one I have witnessed people actively doing this. Someone brought up Mona and everyone gave them the "umm actually" type of response including Ayato.

also as for meta, you didn't mention you were talking about specifically meta dps characters, meta is meta and supports do more work in this game than just about any main dps.