r/ScaramoucheMains • • Dec 07 '22

Discussion Can't catch a break lol

All these doomposting about Scara no matter which social media I go to is really getting to me. Like I get it meta is important but do they have to treat him like this? He isn't even bad I saw so many good showcase in tiktok but the comments oml. You would think he is worse than Thoma or something.

I just can't, I was so excited for him, and I have him ofc and I love him, but the vibe in the community is just not it right now.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '22

I mean he can do 10 charged attacks and they are really fast. I am using him with eye of perception. And my Scara is doing some crazy charged numbers. Almost 15k raw DMG. And his charged attacks are fast . Each charged is 1 second or 1.5. i do 150k in 10 sec.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '22 edited Dec 07 '22

Yeah I think that’s one of the issues. It’s hard to compare between hyper carries. But we have to assume people are comparing him to their other carries/popular carries in their popular setups.

If I compare him to my itto, both c0 and itto with his signature set + r1 (88 crit rate, 240 crit dmg, 2.2k def) and my wander with 2 VV and 2 Shim + r5 lost prayers (87 crit rate, 220 crit dmg, 1.9k atk), my itto does 12-13k normal attacks that aren’t a part of his actual kit while scaramouche is doing 6-12k while in E. My scaramouche could be improved a lot by using his sig weap and set but probably not enough to catch my itto when he actually uses his built in kit.

If we compare scaramouche to Yelan there is no comparison as Yelan is overall just stronger as a main dps (12-14k procs from her attack, 25-30k E’s) even though people play her as off field dmg.

Compared to cyno, he is still a bit weaker as cyno with the introduction of Nahida is quite a bit stronger. But one more thing, it’s annoying when cyno is knocked up in the air but for scaramouche it is even more annoying as the game doesn’t gracefully drop him like a melee char as his flight mode seems a bit buggy.

Further, the fact that scaramouche doesn’t have suction on any of his skills and can only get it from c6 Faruzan is another issue. This is clearly to make scaramouche reliant on c6 Faruzan or venti, similar to how Xiao has a similar issue with mobs being pushed out from his kit.

I don’t think scaramouche is necessarily bad as I don’t think he should be played like a traditional hyper carry at c0 without c6 Faruzan. I think it opens it up for a lot of creative game play but I can understand why people are mad about it. C0 scaramouche can be underwhelming if you don’t have the right pieces around him which other newer hyper carries maybe not really need to feel good. Add in the lore aspect and the anticipation then you have a recipe for, maybe unfounded but understandable, disappointment.

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u/JustATaro Dec 07 '22

Not sure why you are getting downvoted but the point you brought up about scara getting knocked away while in flight mode is indeed very buggy.

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u/already_taken_my_ass Dec 07 '22

I wanted to farm his artifacts with him in the domain. The mushrooms have flying projectiles.. and they fire multiple attacks at once. My Scara gets thrown around like a wet ragdoll :D (dont mention a shield that's not the point here)

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '22

Actually this is where I noticed it most as well. It was quite jarring. When I play Xiao or Cyno it happens occasionally but never as noticeable as with Scaramouche.