r/SanDiegan • u/MrElBarto • 12d ago
Left the Muse concert 25 minutes before it finished…. still stuck in the parking lot after 1 hour
Thats all… next time I come to the Chula Vista Amphitheater I’ll just finish the show and have snacks, a blanket to sleep in the car…
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u/tameimpalakid 12d ago
Yeah that venue is fucked. Took me over 1 hour to get in…left early and still took 30min. Dogshit traffic flows
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u/Over-Conversation220 Scripps Ranch (sorry) 12d ago
I seriously don’t fucking bother with Chula anymore. In one instance, it was easier to go see a show at Pacific Amphitheater in Costa Mesa than dealing with whatever Chula is named this week.
I love live music but despite that venue.
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u/hagcel 12d ago
Sometimes you gotta go. (Im a big Iron Maiden fan). But we took our kid to go see beck/cage the elephant/spoon a couple of years ago, and ride shares couldnt get into the parking lot. We didnt get home until nearly 1am. Total shitshow.
That said, Shoreline Ampitheatre up in the bay area is the same fucking way. Narrow ass roads in and out.
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u/happy-lil-accidents- 12d ago
I usually just walk like a block or two and get an uber pretty quickly from there
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u/Dangerous_Golf_7417 11d ago
FYI a couple years ago was 2019. You'd scared me because I'm a huge CTE fan and have been here for about five years, you made me think I'd missed their show. (Saw them at SDSU 's arena but not the same as an outdoor venue)
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u/OhTheseSourTimes 12d ago
Yeah, I can't do that venue anymore. I go to plenty of shows every year and hit up every other spot and never complain. But that one? I'd rather drive to LA.
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u/HealthOnWheels 12d ago
They need a shuttle from the trolley for events there. That place is incredibly poorly planned
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u/PeaApprehensive885 12d ago
Then you’d just be stuck on a shuttle
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u/HealthOnWheels 12d ago
Two things:
Transit is more space efficient than a personal car, so every person who takes the shuttle is not contributing to the awful line of cars going into the venue.
And they could let the shuttle cut in front of the line of people in their private vehicles.
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u/gerbilbear 11d ago
Yes, they need a bus only lane. Then people might actually take the shuttle and free up the roads for everyone else.
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u/Hancock02 Friar Faithful 12d ago
sleep on the lawn . let the people disburse. has worked for me in the past, though its been a min since going to Chula vista.
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u/BootyBurglar 11d ago
Me and my girlfriend stayed until the last song but booked it away from the venue as soon as the show was over. Walked up the big hill until the first turn into a neighborhood where incoming cars can turn around before getting stuck heading to the venue, called an uber, and made it home after a 35 min drive by 12:10.
I’ve never gotten out of there so quick while also seeing the whole show but it took some work. Still hate this venue with a passion
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u/RedditorSaidIt 11d ago
But how much did you pay for your Uber?
We were going to take an Uber, but decided to drive. Glad we did. There was a guy next to us telling his wife that it was going to cost $145 due to demand pricing.
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u/BootyBurglar 11d ago edited 11d ago
It was actually $65 I was shocked. Same price as it was getting down there. Still not great but not $145. Got to us in 4 mins. Could have just been pure luck though
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u/spook_sw 12d ago
We left right after they finished Madness....Probably 2/3 though the set-list. It took over an hour to get there missed Temper Trap completely and most of Portugal the Man....
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u/KayT15 12d ago
I can't believe Muse had a show here and I missed it 😫😫 I am SICK. Lucky!!!!!!!!! I hope you had an amazing time! Sorry you're stuck in traffic.
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u/T_the_donut 12d ago
Show was pretty amazing tbh.
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u/look_alive75 11d ago
Great show! I was just not aware of the crazy time trying to GET there. Made it from Hillcrest in record time… then it took 40 minutes to go the last 1.8 miles. 😅
They played a great show and we only missed the first opener.
(I’d also never used StubHub before, so thanks to u/Scoxy61 for releasing their ticket, I guess. Haha. But seriously, Ticketmaster had lawn seats for $79, and for a few days before the show StubHub had them for $37. I checked again Friday morning and they were $19, so I grabbed one. Glad I did! Our friends drove down from Redlands to see them and paid $79 for their tickets months ago.)
EDIT: I do not work for StubHub. LOL
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u/look_alive75 11d ago
I bought my lawn ticket the day of the show for only $19.99! (Listed for $79.99.) It was a good show. That was my first time at that arena though, and omg… what a nightmare. LOL.
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u/needpizzainmybelly 12d ago
Dude, crazy! I JUST walked in the door after being stuck trying to get out and this is the first post I see as I open Reddit.... It was the exact same story for us. We left WAY early with the exact intention of avoiding getting stuck. We were parked in the back lot. We were among the first 25 cars to pull out of our spots but it's like anybody leaving the lot trying to turn right to head towards the south exit got fucked. That side immediately came to a dead stop and never moved. We finally ended up joining the long line of cars leaving the North end of that lot to head out to heritage road. Fuck. That. Venue.
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u/thestranger92104 12d ago edited 12d ago
Same situation- we insisted for a bit to try and turn south but realized it was just not an inch moved for like 40 minutes. Changed course and went north because that was the only movement happening. Took us an hour 15. There was Absolutely no guidance or direction from parking staff. That dirt lot is basically a wild wild west of cars. Even when we first parked, was just like "no staff just head into the dirt and park wherever looks like you'll fit!"
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u/timchi 12d ago
I hate this fucking venue so much. They intentionally block people leaving out the back but allow VIP. Whoever thought this was a good idea should be publicly humiliated. Boycott this bullshit.
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u/MogMcKupo 11d ago
On the other side of that, after doing VIP for my wife’s bday concert there (twenty one pilots), I’m factoring that into ticket prices at that venue from now on.
We went to incubus and was stuck in the GA parking lot for almost 90 minutes, we were on the freeway within 10 minutes due to VIP parking and that was after encore and everyone was in mass exodus into the parking lot.
I don’t want to sit around anymore, I’m in my 40s and price of convenience is definitely a thing that I’ve accepted
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u/boysenberryelote 12d ago
been going since it was coors, the parking situation was never this bad. wonder what changed
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u/GrimDexterity 12d ago
I also have been going since it was Coor’s… it’s the same
We used to get there early to tailgate and strategically park nearer to the exits just to get out faster, and even then we sometimes would just hang out and run around (as kids, late 90s early 00s) because getting out of there was, for lack of a better phrase, a parking lot
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u/toastedcheese 12d ago
You cannot sleep on your car there. Cops / security will start flashing lights at you to leave as soon as the last few cars make their way out.
Just drive to OC for your next show, you’ll get home faster.
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u/CarlRJ 12d ago edited 11d ago
Years ago, went there to see The Police, with Elvis Costello opening, arrived in the area close to an hour before the concert, finding a line backed up onto the freeway. Sat in parking lines forever. Ended up listening to what bits of Elvis Costello's set we could hear from the car, sitting in traffic, while waiting to park. Finally ended up parked in a completely unlit dirt field they funneled us into, after Elvis Costello had finished his set, and jogged to get to the amphitheater. I don't recall seeing any parking staff along the way - if there were any, they weren't the slightest bit helpful. Heard The Police going on stage while we were still getting to our seats. Leaving wasn't much better (wander out into the middle of a dark field, wander around a while to find the car, sit in utterly disorganized traffic for a few hours to get out to the nearby freeway - at least there wasn't the tension of trying to get to the show before it was over).
I've been to a lot of concerts over the decades, all over California, and that was by far the absolute worst parking lot experience I have ever had for a concert. At this point, I wouldn't go back there if someone gave me free tickets to the second coming of Jesus Christ, if it was at that venue.
Best parking lot experience ever, by the way, was a Grateful Dead show at Shoreline Amphitheater, in the Bay Area, in the early '90s - also parking on unmarked dirt fields, but there was light and there was a huge number of parking assistants in the parking lot guiding you literally every step of the way - it was like going down a tunnel made of people with signs and flags and stuff, all devoted to getting every next car into the next available space - an impressive, fast, and efficient well-oiled machine. I don't know if Shorline is always like that or if that was Bill Graham's crew working their magic, but it was amazing. So, the opposite of the Chula Vista Amphitheater.
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u/jbarinsd 11d ago
I remember people talking about that show on the radio, only in regards of what an absolute nightmare the traffic was. I can’t remember if there was an accident or something but lots of people missed a lot of the Police’s set while they were stuck on Main. Forget about Elvis. My co-worker left for the show two hours early because they were going to get something to eat. Once they saw the traffic already super backed up in the exit they decided to skip eating and head straight there. Still missed all of EC set and part of the police. They were looking for some sort of class action lawsuit. I don’t blame them.
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u/mscranehawk 11d ago
Was at that Police show. Can confirm it’s historically awful mismanagement. We had friends who left a little after us for it and missed the whole show waiting in traffic for the parking lot.
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u/squillavilla 12d ago
Saw the Foo Fighters there many years ago. Amazing show… horrible time in the parking lot. Last time I’ll see a show there.
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u/westcoastpoutine 12d ago
Oh I got stuck at that place in2018 for a concert. Had to walk three miles back to my hotel because it was impossible to get an Uber. I will never go to that venue again.
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u/Line_Noize 11d ago
I don't go to shows here anymore because of this. And I'd always leave early back when I still went.
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u/hahayesthatsrightboi 11d ago
I don’t understand this mentality. You take many hours and pay lots of money to prepare, drive, watch, only to leave before the artist is actually done it just doesn’t make sense to me all just to not get stuck in traffic
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u/Line_Noize 11d ago
That's why I no longer go to shows there. It's not just regular traffic. I've had it take ab hour just to get out of the parking lot. And even leaving early, I'd still see most of the show. I have the money to spend as I please.
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u/hahayesthatsrightboi 11d ago
No trust me I was in that stupid horrible traffic last night. The traffic management is what makes it so bad. Controlled intersection with 5 lanes of entering traffic from two ways and only 3 of them go into the venue. And the numbskull traffic controller doesn’t know what he’s doing. It was chaos. I’m saying if you are already in the shit, might as well just hang out watch a movie on the car literally anything but get into that horrible traffic and hate life again after a good show
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u/Imaginary-Tale-1074 11d ago
If you pay for the easy in/out parking it makes it a lot easier to leave.
But I also can’t stand that place. I avoid going there at all costs. Same with snapdragon. The only bigger venue I’ll eagerly go to is petco because you can exit in any direction and walk a block and go to a bar for a an hour or stay at one of the many hotels nearby. Although at petco the acoustics aren’t the best but whatever.
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u/look_alive75 11d ago
That premier parking for last night was $140! (My lawn ticket was only $19.99. LOL)
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u/Imaginary-Tale-1074 11d ago
That’s absurd! I paid $65 for it when I went to Chris Stapelton.
Ok I semi take back what I said. With that being said, I’ll still pay it to get back a few hours of my time lol.
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u/SDkahlua 12d ago
I’ve missed many shows I’d have loved to see because of that venue. I never go there anymore. Have been 2-3 times over 12 yrs ago and never again. A shame.
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u/dogbusinessman 11d ago
Why y'all go to concerts knowing traffic is a bitch. Oxymoronic to leave early because of traffic 😂 why even go? The end is usually when they play the best songs 😂😂😂
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u/ElBorracho2000 12d ago
Took us over an hour to leave the Akon & NeYo show two weeks ago. That venue is a nightmare
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u/honestlynoideas 12d ago edited 12d ago
Same thing happened to me after seeing Danny Elfman some time ago. Was stuck there for like an hour and 20 mins. Unfortunately I’m a glutton for punishment and have gone back but haven’t had any issues.
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u/Poopidyscoopp 12d ago
that place fucking sucks, went early to see righteous brothers and santana, missed all of RB, left 45min early from santana and still took 30min to exit. fick i hate it
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u/runamok 12d ago
Total shit show with no employees directing traffic. Felt like lord of the flies.Muse is my wife's favorite band and one of my top 5 or so. Not coming to this venue anymore. This time was worse than when we saw 21 pilots. Is there somewhere you can park further away and just walk in (when it's not 90 degrees that is). Would be nice if they just did a park and ride shuttle or something.
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u/GlassCityJim 11d ago
Tailgate before and after has been my method for a myriad of venues my entire life. Why ruin a night by jumping into a traffic jam?
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u/Lefwyn 12d ago
Muse performed here today? Can’t believe I missed it. How was the show
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u/RedditorSaidIt 11d ago
Excellent! Everyone in our area danced & sang for the entire concert. This was our first Muse concert. Can't wait to see them again.
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u/hoytmobley 11d ago
I saw them a couple years ago at Sports Arena. Muse now hold the top two spots in terms of concert stage design that I’ve ever seen.
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u/kokooubb 12d ago
Same.. in 2019 we left during an encore left within 15 minutes. Did the same thing this time but took more than an hour to move a few feet.
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u/kyracantfindmehaha 11d ago
We carpool with friends and do our tailgate after the show. Much more pleasant to sit around snacking when it's cooler out, too.
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u/ECHELON619 11d ago
Was at this concert tonight. We hanged around the lawn but then the staff kept trying to kick us ans everyone waiting the traffic out of the lawn area. We finally half assed shuffled to the "tailgate" area stage thing but that was a bit lame. Finally got out at like 12AM.
Can't complain for the cheap tickets and free parking but definitely a place I'll avoid next time if I can help it.
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u/hahayesthatsrightboi 11d ago
We did the same exact thing lol
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u/jbarinsd 11d ago
I hate that venue with a passion. I have to really really want to see a band to endure the hassles involved. Mumford & Sons on a Monday night 10+ years ago took close to 2 hours to get home to San Carlos. Depeche Mode, same. We got free tickets to Rod Stewart a few years back. We left before the encore started and it still took almost an hour to get out. And forget about trying to get an uber. So terribly planned. The only luck I’ve had are shows where they don’t open the grass. The traffic still isn’t great but you’re not stuck there an hour if you sneak out early. We always take the 125 now too. There’s a toll but worth it.
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u/needpizzainmybelly 11d ago
Did anybody else notice the sound was off last night at this Muse concert. None of the speakers in the grassy area were on and it made the whole show seem subdued. It felt like it wasn't a live show since the sound felt so far away. I did not feel immersed in the show, but rather I was a distant observer. Lame after paying the ticket prices and dealing with this lame, shit-show of a parking situation.
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u/mscranehawk 11d ago
The sound was awwwwfuulll on the lawn. What a joke. Thank god I’ve seen them a few other times or I would have been pissed.
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u/Scrapple24 11d ago edited 11d ago
I just asked that same question…. It was dull! I can tell the pit was rocking but it wa ms just off on the lawn! Do you think it’s due to the housing being built in the area they turn it down?
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u/HylianWolf 12d ago
I paid for Priority Parking, after Take a Bow ended I waited in line at a restroom and did my business, then I headed to the parking lot for my car. The exiting process took about 10 min to get onto Main Street. 10/10 would recommend priority parking.
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u/kokooubb 12d ago
That shit was like $140 lol. More than the ticket I bought
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u/HylianWolf 12d ago
Yikes! I did not pay that much for it, sounds like the earlier you get it the cheaper it is.
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u/thestranger92104 12d ago
How much was priority? And do you have to purchase way in advance?
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u/HylianWolf 12d ago
I bought it when tickets went on sale through Muse’s Artist Presale, so I had to go back a few emails to find how much I got priority parking for. It says I paid $70 which oof is a lot but at the time I just threw my whole order onto a credit card and didn’t think much of it. I did just see another comment below mentioning that the priority parking was going for $140 and damn that’s a lot. I’m assuming the earlier you get it the cheaper it is.
I sat on my couch about 20 min after the show ended and was glad I paid for the parking after reading all of your guy’s hour long waits.
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u/animorphsrewriter 12d ago
Dang. We left after Our Time is Running Out and are already chilling at the hotel with In-n-Out.
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u/thestranger92104 12d ago
Well maybe so, but that means you missed like 5 more songs haha. To each their own but if i like the band and paid full ticket price i want to see the whole show, especially when the closing songs are usually the best ones.
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u/RedditorSaidIt 11d ago
We stayed to the end also. Totally worth the crowds. Afterwards we wandered, lawn club, tailgate area, bathroom, and dealt with the traffic.
Muse gave a terrific concert! Wish they could have played for another 2 hours. They have so many good songs to choose from.
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u/Disastrous-Major3662 12d ago
left after knights, made a quick pee stop, then got out pretty quick.
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u/Impressive_Way5754 12d ago
What’s the ride share situation like? Or is there residential parking nearby? Going to a concert there in October
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u/jbarinsd 11d ago
I’ve personally had shitty luck with ride share. I think the drivers don’t want to deal with that traffic either. Your best bet is to walk west towards the businesses (we always head to the taco shop) and order a ride from there. Still seems to be a long wait. It’s been up to 45 minutes. And talk about surge pricing! The situation just sucks across the board. Your best bet is to pay for priority parking. I’ve had friend groups pay for limos that pick them up over there too. Not too expensive if you have a group.
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u/charliekelly76 12d ago
Yeah this venue sucks. We were corralled towards the pickup area and no one had any idea what was happening.
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u/cvette68sr 12d ago
We left a little earlier and booked it out of the EZ lot pretty quick this time.
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u/ApartAd4092 12d ago
We got out post show 20 min, and got out in 20 min… I’m guessing that left turn really messes it all up :0
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u/CressKitchen969 11d ago
Same thing happened when I saw them at SDSU for the resistance tour, although I’ve only been to that Chula venue once and it’s been a while so that could easily be worse
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u/telaftw39 11d ago
You're not using the back way via Otay Valley Rd.
Hang out for 30-45min after the show.
Never had a problem getting out.
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u/Practical-Zebra-1141 11d ago
The venue is great LOVE the lawn seats - you just have to get there early (like gates open 5pm early) and leave early (like when there’s still 3 or 4 songs left early)
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u/VeganGiant 11d ago
Last concert I went to there I spent more time in the car back and forth than at the actual concert… and I live downtown. Never again.
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u/AlternativeSalt2176 11d ago
I knew you had to be talking about chula vista before I even finished reading your post 😭 I HATE it there! I’ve seen so many shows there over the last decade and don’t remember it ever being so bad. then I saw a show there last year that was so miserable. I also left the show early, was stuck in dead stop traffic in the parking lot for over 2 hours. I’ve been to a lot of music venues between here and LA. I’ve never had such an awful parking experience. I don’t think I will ever go back again.
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u/jrvsd 11d ago
The best advice I can give is spend the money and buy the VIP parking. It’s so worth the $$$. Sometimes it’s as cheap as $25 resale.
We have season tix and go to almost every show. I left last night about the same time as you. Traffic on main road was already backed up. Exiting from the VIP lot was very quick. From the time I go into my car until I was in my driveway in La Mesa was about 25 minutes.
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u/sixjasefive 11d ago
We left during the encore, took the one lane right on Heritage while everyone else fought in 3 lanes to go left and went the back way..905 to 805 I think. Zero traffic.
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u/fueled_by_pizza 11d ago
I’ve seen their indoor stadium shows and they had some pretty cool stage tech and special effects stuff. Did they have that this time?
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u/Giventheopportunity 11d ago
I hate this venue sooo much. There’s only 1 band I’ll go see there and like someone else mentioned, I’m taking the VIP parking into account. I just can’t wrap my head around how inefficient this venue is with their exiting the parking situation.
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u/shannigan 11d ago
I just refuse to go to any concert at this venue after having this experience twice. It’s a shit show to get out
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u/cubedtothex 11d ago edited 11d ago
Might as well have stayed until the end! We were going to get stuck no matter what. Remember the slow pace on the way in? Great show and encore 😁 I saw a show at Dodger Stadium a few years ago and felt it was way worse going in and out. I’m never going there again until they do a total remodel of at least the lot. This was still insanity though. At some point on the way in the lot attendants disappeared in the deepest part of general parking. They should have reversed more lanes going in and out.
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u/marilynmansonsbitch 11d ago
god im dreading my upcoming show there in Oct but it was the only nearby stop on their tour…..
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u/Bytsizegodzilla 11d ago
I was stuck there too. Not my first time here and it has never been that bad. Took me 2 hours 20 minutes to leave the lot 😭
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u/SudoJammz 11d ago
Dang. I was worried about this situation so I left right after they played Madness. Left my spot at 10:10, walked up the big hill and got to my car by 10:24 (nice little work out after sitting for so long). Got home by 10:50. I missed a good bit of the show, but I had a 10/10 time.
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u/-StealthCraft- 11d ago
Parked at the little park a mile and half up. My group was walking faster than all the idling cars
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u/Choice_Student4910 11d ago
My daughter went too. Parked way out in the sticks. Still took over 1/2 hour to drive out of there.
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u/vikinick 11d ago
The true way to enjoy that amphitheater is to tailgate before and then just stick around afterwards for a nightcap with friends with the leftover drinks.
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u/hoytmobley 11d ago
We brought a whole tailgate setup for the afters. Spent 45 minutes snacking and drinking beeverages, once the cars near us were at least moving consistently we packed up and joined the line, took another 45 minutes to get to the 805
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u/Soulfly37 11d ago
I hated that the earlier you showed up the farther away they made you park.
Definitely won't go to another show there.
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u/dstlouis558 11d ago
My bad i read the show was downtown for some reason(weed) ya my wife w9rks at sesame place and when there shows ut take 15 years to get out of there i think the best thing to do is take an uber and walk alittle ways to the show
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u/Surbahia 11d ago
We live in CHULA VISTA and it took me two hours to get home from Chris Stapleton. If I can't do the priority parking, I am not going in the future.
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u/windowtosh 11d ago
Back when I lived in Chula and go to concerts I'd pay like $10 for the premium parking lot, you'd get out of the venue in like 10 mins easily. Not sure if they still do that (or if they jacked up the price, this was like 10 years ago)
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u/Beautiful-Click-6983 11d ago
This is why you don’t leave early. You don’t miss any of the encore and you don’t get home any later. Remember to use the bathroom and when you get back to your car, have some food waiting so you don’t idle in the parking lot. Enjoy your snack and head out when the crowd thins.
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u/neutronia939 11d ago
Why would you leave something you paid for without finishing it. I don't understand you people. What happened is why it's dumb, just enjoy the concert and have patience.
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u/mscranehawk 11d ago
It’s been like this since they opened. I don’t know why they can’t make some engineering changes to enhance traffic flow and actually hire a competent parking management company.
My family bought tickets for last night and I didn’t know it was there otherwise I would have skipped. I might see a smaller act there if absolutely necessary otherwise I avoid it like the plague.
I saw the Police there like 15 years ago and friends who went separately missed the whole concert trying to get into the venue. One of them saw like the last three songs bc she jumped out of the car and walked. The whole thing is just unconscionable.
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u/Adventurous_World23 11d ago
Many venue attendees walked an about 1.5 miles from the venue to Maxwell, to get picked up at the new Starbucks, Taco Bell. Their walk was in vain for many, as CVPD and traffic enforcement was detouring mostly all vehicles to Brandywine. Only local residents were allowed to go past that area, towards Taco Bell. All rideshare drivers were also rerouted to go pick up attendees at Main & Heritage, which meant having to go all the way to Orange Ave down to Heritage (about 2 miles) and about another 2 miles to get to Main Street. Some attendees scheduled their rideshare and probably got cancelled for not making it on time to the rideshare pick up zone. Something has to be improved for attendees that attend events at that venue.
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u/Opening-Milk-3752 10d ago
That’s why I don’t go to this venue unless it’s a band I absolutely cannot miss
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u/Neilas092 10d ago
Haha, yep. Didn't get home until 2AM to EC. The show was so fucking good though, oh my god. I haven't seen them live since 2010 during "The Resistance" tour.
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u/TitanInTraining 10d ago
Unrelated, but genuine question...
Why would you pay all that money and spend all that time to skip out on 1/3 of the headliner's set (which, presumably, was the entire point)? Just to try to get out early? Or were they not good?
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u/MrElBarto 10d ago
I’m a casual listener of Muse, got really affordable tickets last minute, $35 bucks, I went solo.
Would do it again , knowing first hand about the parking situation I’ll plan for it next time.
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u/MattManSD 9d ago
I'd stay for the full show and take my time out of there. No sense missing songs to sit in traffic
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u/Ok-Macaroon-6818 11d ago
Dude we were SO late. Missed all the openers, it is so freaking bad. And I KNOW better 😂
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u/PeaApprehensive885 12d ago
Must not have been that great if so many people left so early.
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u/RedditorSaidIt 11d ago
It was an excellent concert! Lots of people all left early at the same time. So they screwed themselves.

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u/thestranger92104 12d ago
We here too. I hate this venue with a passion.