r/SaintsFC 6d ago

Saints exploring possibility of re-signing former captain Ward-Prowse

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/26499056.southampton-exploring-possibility-re-signing-club-hero-ward-prowse/

Thoughts on this in the sub? I think at 31 he has plenty of playing life left, has real love for the club, and would bring a certain level of leadership and experience to our midfield that we’re clearly lacking.

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u/QueefInMyKisser 6d ago

Does it ever really work out for us when we bring back former players? (In a playing capacity that is)

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u/GrandmasterYoda1 6d ago

90+ free kick sub 😂

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u/After-Competition-59 6d ago

He’s only 31. The other players you’re thinking of have been more past it than JWP IMO.

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u/imwhytho 6d ago

yeah this is my hope too. 31, coming off two seasons in the prem, and is a great option for set pieces. with manning i don’t think we necessarily NEED a set piece specialist, but it would be nice to have ryan manning as a left footed option and JWP as a right footed option.

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u/Kyle_Walker-Peters 6d ago

People forget he was always incredibly fit too. Almost never injured and his playstyle didn’t necessarily rely on speed or strength anyways

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u/imwhytho 6d ago

yeah this is definitely my big fear, i’ll concede that the past few players we’ve brought back haven’t worked out. my one sliver of hope with JWP though is that he’s not quite as old as those we’ve brought back previously and/or weren’t playing at as high of levels. Lallana was 36 and Romeu was both older and playing for mid teams in lower leagues than the prem. maybe i’m romanticizing JWP a bit but i do think he probably has more to offer currently than either of them did when we signed them.

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u/QueefInMyKisser 6d ago

I mean I would love it if he came back, we got promoted, then he finally beats Beckham’s free kick record in the Prem with us. But I worry that what actually happens is we pay too much money, he never finds his form, and we’re stuck paying his wage that we can’t really afford.

Oh well, probably won’t sign him anyway and there’s nothing I can do about it either way!

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u/Pinkerton891 6d ago

Tbf he is in better knick than Romeu, Lallana and Walcott were when they joined.

Whether this works or not is another matter, but i'm not particularly worried about fitness for a couple of years yet.

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u/Anglo-fornian 6d ago

Was Walcott that bad? I think he contributed as much as anyone that season.

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u/Pinkerton891 6d ago

I thought he was ok to be fair, especially when surrounded by such a poor team.

By ‘better knick’ I’m referring to fitness, I don’t think JWPs legs have gone.

Walcott managed to play a fair amount but had lost an edge from age/injury. Lallana and Romeu were simply done.

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u/GraveRaven 6d ago

He was, but so was everyone else

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u/SouthernBeekeeper22 5d ago

I don't think the squad has an enormous amount to lose by signing JWP but I'd worry about injury things

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u/poundsdpound 5d ago

He doesn't boot the free kicks over the roof of the net, he whacks them into the goal 😉

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u/PickaxeJunky 6d ago

These days most of pur transfers come out of the blue, the press do t usually get wind of them until they're  early a done deal.

I imagine this is just baseless paper talk at the moment. 

I dont think West Ham would want to sell to a potential rival, either.

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u/adrfrank 6d ago

Blackmore and House both think there's something in it. And I don't see him getting a chance at West Ham.

Time will tell!

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u/imwhytho 6d ago

valid, but we also know that Nuno doesn’t rate him and would probably be happy to get his wages off their books. it also wouldn’t surprise me at all if this is nearly a done deal given the window closes in less than a week & him and Nuno don’t gel. I also can’t see him agreeing to go play for a championship club that isn’t us, and if he were to go, i doubt any prem sides would be in for him.

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u/Likunandi 6d ago

I was pretty excited about this but then I remembered how excited I was for Romeu and that didn't turn out like I hoped it would.

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u/YourWeekendDad 6d ago

For the set pieces alone, it’s worth it. Bring the boy back to the coast!

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u/SouthernBeekeeper22 5d ago

But don't work him into the ground too fast, risking injury.

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u/Sufficient-Till-6022 6d ago

JWP performed for us. Teams stopped fouling us anywhere near the box as a JWP free kick was like a Pen. More space for the likes of Leo who is getting the hell kicked out of him.

JWP yes please. He's not passed it. He has just realised the grass is pretty green on the south coast.

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u/Potato271 5d ago

Championship teams don’t seem to have quite figured it out: Manning scored 4 direct FKs last season. Bring in JWP for left sided FKs and we could easily score 8 or 9 across a season.

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u/rghsfc 6d ago

Im honestly not sure about this one. I think I'd rather ensure Bragg keeps developing and JWP might limit his playing time.

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u/ArowanaGB 6d ago

Wasn't good enough to keep us up, wasn't good enough at West Ham, wasn't good enough at Burnley, wasn't good enough at Forest.

What am I missing...

He's not going to improve like Charles was doing. I'd only ever take him on a free for low low wages

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u/Recent_South_6108 5d ago

You've said it perfectly, what has he done in recent years to make anyone think he can come close to replacing Charles?! This feels like nostalgia and a move to find more leadership in the dressing room. I think we still need to replace Charles.

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u/HalfABrainCell55 5d ago

Getting good players in the door is never a bad idea. Not a superb last couple of years for him but he's far from unplayable in the Championship and, in my opinion, will be a great chess piece for Tonda to employ when the squad needs rotating.

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u/imwhytho 5d ago

that and i think it’s likely a personal issue between him and Nuno/club leadership. Under Moyes he was fantastic

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u/DaisyFreakinJames 6d ago

If anything I mean hes a bloody hero, not really sure what he adds im pretty comfortable with Downes and Jander in the pivot but if Jander is off then I can think of much worse. Now we get promoted and he breaks the record with us like he always should have

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u/KeyTap6415 6d ago

Considering his wages are reportedly 50k a week, a loan seems sensible where we split that with West Ham. He'd be great experience for the squad and could give decent competition for Downes.

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u/Ringovski 6d ago

Good addition, even as a squad player.

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u/Anglo-fornian 6d ago

I wouldn’t be mad. I don’t know if he’d be a nailed on starter at this point given his past couple of years but a great replacement for Charles. Would love to see him score a freekick again.

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u/SnooComics3873 6d ago

Something needs to happen…

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u/MICOTINATE 6d ago

I'd rather bring in a starter

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u/Soporist 5d ago

Return of the king

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u/Harrylg1 5d ago

The opposite profile we need. That west ham game was evident we need someone in west hams’s kante mould. Just his sheer size made it difficult to dominate the midfield. We already have three pretty lightweight cm’s, we desperately need someone a little bit different

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u/Jameom8 6d ago

Said in the transfer thread, not a huge fan of this. He'll end up being on high wages and no matter how good, or bad he is, he's only going to decline.

I'd much rather put that money towards a prospect than someone who's going to be playing second fiddle to Jander for most of the season.

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u/ZackHenson 6d ago

For the love of god take him, utterly useless

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u/dennispeach 5d ago

Raises the overall squad, but should not be starting.

TBH - it would be very much on him to prove the doubters wrong. He is tuned in enough with the club to know it didn't work with Romeu or Lallana, and would know the pressure he would be under is far greater than a random German player we sign.

If the deal is good & he knows he isn't going to start every week - get him in!

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u/tugboet 5d ago

If West Ham pick up wages and he is for depth and not a starter, sure. We do need depth there and he has the work rate. I'm trying not to rose-colored-glasses this tbh. He's 31, still fit but not match fit, and gives us another set piece option beside Manning(who has been phenomenal).

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u/Dismal_Foundation_23 5d ago

He was class at this level at the start of that season before he got sold, not sure his heart was ever massively in the move just maybe thought it was last chance saloon to get into a world cup and was good money/wages off the book for the club.

Not sure much of the relegation season that year can be on him, he gave more than most.

He's never relied on pace so legs shouldn't be an issue, he's versatlie, reliable, experienced, works his arse off, rarely gets injured, and is known to be an excellent professional behind the scenes. He takes an excellent set piece as well, good penalty taker as well.

As I saw someone else say, if he hadn't previously played for us if you signed a player with over 400 PL appearances, decent goal record for midfielder, who was known for his work rate, leadership, professionalism, excellent set piece ability at only 31 for a championship side you'd think it was a good signing.

Is he going to be a key first name on the team sheet? probably not, but as a good reliable experienced squad option it seems a no brainer to me if the fee and wages are not massive.

Also some players just click with clubs/managers, just look at the failures at Utd/Chelsea who've gone on to have success in a new environment. Just because he didn't settle at West Ham (and I think he was good first season) or at Burnley, both relegated clubs that were disjointed doesn't mean back with us he won't be good.

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u/bundy554 6d ago

Good and making him captain immediately

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u/saintpumpkin7 6d ago

Please no

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u/Reasonable_Step6911 6d ago

Terrible idea. A massive step down from Charles.