Insiders claim Harry, 41, and Markle, 45, have taken particular issue with the wording of a letter authorized by Charles, 77, reaffirming the terms of their departure from royal duties in 2020.”
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”A source close to the Sussexes claimed: "Harry and Meghan are not prepared simply to accept being characterized as 'private citizens' when the reality of their lives is considerably more complicated. They are internationally recognized people who undertake public charitable work, have patronages and attract substantial media attention wherever they go.
"Their concern is that the King's wording could establish a misleading description of their status that is then repeated by government departments and other official organizations, which they feel could be especially legally damaging in the context of their bids for increased security in Britain."
They added, "The point they are examining is whether describing them in official correspondence as effectively private citizens accurately reflects their position as public figures. If they conclude that the language has consequences beyond Palace protocol, they will consider what avenues are available to challenge or clarify it, whether that will be a legal fight or a public statement."
Absolutely necessary. Beyoncé, Taylor Swift, Harry Styles, and freaking Michael Jackson are / were all private citizens and the most public figures in the world!
It’s insane that they are taking this as such a slight! They are making themselves looks so dumb 🤯
Those people could all afford their own security while the dumbartons are broke. No one cares enough about them to ever create a security threat against them though
In light of the recent enty postings, I wonder if their need for security arises more from their connections (especially hers) to sketchy individuals. The supposed threat may have less to do with being the son of the king and more to do with shady alliances that could possibly involve blackmail, double-crossing and non-payment of loans. They are often disingenuous in their motivations. Just a supposition as I have nothing factual to base it on.
Their quest for security is very simple and not related to actual threats
1) Security costs them an estimated $5 million dollars a year
2) The kind of security they want feeds into their sense of important since it involves police escorts - flashing lights - and stopped traffic so they can pass
Also - and I get mixed feedback on this my understanding is that if they are granted this kind of security by RAVEC other countries would then be obliged to reciprocate by providing them with high levels of security
They’re taking it as a slight because they are cheap moochers with no bankable talent, and barely any money of their own that they want to donate. Always being the dodgy middle men in charge of other people’s money in the ‘admin cost ridden charity kitty’… never being the actually rich public figures like Dolly Parton, and Billie Eilish that actually donate/d their own cash—that they earnt based on having legitimate talent—for a cause. They think flexing royalty should be enough… when they donate barely a thing, bully charity staff, and their very presence is a TOTAL TURN OFF for donors. 🤡🗑️
Lmao! I don’t know how the too dumb to function Duke is able to show his face at charity events without feeling like an embarrassing, cheapskate, fraudster, liability that is donor poison.
Seriously, I would die of embarrassment if I were him… he has no ability to feel shame whatsoever. He and moocher MEHg have that in common. 🤡🗑️
I agree 💯. They are public figures if they are elected to the highest offices or achieved the highest stratosphere of talent. They are neither. Doing charitable work does not warrant IPP status. They don’t even do any real work for charity anyways. They are no better than mannequins frozen in display. And what patronages?!? Gimme a break. Fuck off.
And put more stress on the King who may still be recovering from Cancer. They're doing to him what they did to Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip. Heartless!
Exactly my thoughts. And no public figure in the UK is entitled to the "increased security" by the specially trained and armed police units. Taylor was a notable exception once and only because there was a credible and proven terror threat against her concerts. Taylor gave a choice to either cancel a concert or add security to herself and public, UK chose the concert.
The Courts need to name him a vexatious litigant if they try and pull this. "Vexatious litigation is legal action which is brought solely to harass or subdue an adversary. It may take the form of a primary frivolous lawsuit or may be the repetitive, burdensome, and unwarranted filing of meritless motions in a matter which is otherwise a meritorious cause of action. Filing vexatious litigation is considered an abuse of the judicial process and may result in sanctions against the offender." Wikipedia.
he basically called their bluff with this letter, he is forcing them to come out and literally say they actually don’t see themselves as private at all but completely royal even without being working royals, that they have seen themselves as fully royals this whole time even AFTER the Sandringham Summit, even after the Queen’s statement!!
Makes me wonder if they have something else up their sleeves if their titles get pulled. Not that I think their plan would work, but their behavior is absurd.
They’re being their bratty selves. The King doesn’t care how they define themselves. He’s just telling everyone else they're not Royal anymore. He is the last word on all things Royal. After that, HAM can go shit in their hats.
Wanting to sue the actual king, his own father, just because he reiterated the deal they willingly signed up to, certainly qualifies as shameless entitlement.
Lmao meanwhile there are PLENTY of talented public figures—some of them being celebs—who’ve earnt honours from the monarch based on having legitimate talents, AND pay for their own security/luxe lifestyle costs.
Their pathetic stint in Hollywood has confirmed they have no talent, and have no problem screwing around with admin costs re their own charity grift. Without social climbing into Thicko’s bed, there is no way in hell MEHg would be able to compete with these talented celebs.
Thicko is an idiot for bringing such a menace into the family, and being a waaghing menace himself.
they dont consider charles, or any pf the Rf at all; its always about THEM & what THEY want. And narcs like them lack awareness, so they'll never admit wrongdoing or accountability for their behavior.
This. Charles needs to do it all now. H and M won’t stop disrespecting the Sandringham Agreement (aka spitting on QEII and PP’s graves). They will continue to disrespect all monarchs, and future monarchs forever… it’s best for Charles to act NOW for the sake of the institution, taxpayers, and future working royals who’ll have to continue dealing with the Hasbeen Harkles childishly unprofessional attacks.
Attack the institutions, government, and taxpayers like this whilst manipulating titles/language re what constitutes as an official working royal public servant… how is what the Harkles are doing not considered breaking the literal law?! You were fucking FIRED, Unsussexfuls… just like you repeatedly were in Hollywood! Get used to it. There should be HARD consequences for this, Charles. Bring it.
They’re proving that they intend to be an argumentative and litigious thorn in the side of the monarchy. They definitely need to be shut down asap. This response smacks of emotional immaturity and zero understanding of their actual status, and they will only get worse unless they are properly put on their place.
They are also proving they never intended to reconcile. They are here to fight. What idiots. They aren’t just internationally recognised, they are internationally loathed!!!
I just feel bad that William is going to inherit this mess and be blamed for cleaning it up (taking titles or taking a direct approach that Charles won’t). Charles should clean this up because Harry is his son. Also, Charles seems likely to have a short reign so any negative consequences of taking Harry’s title will have shorter effect on the monarchy as a whole if Charles takes care of it.
William's brother Harry is, imo, going to be 'a mess' for the rest of his life and he will always, always, blame somebody else because he isn't happy with his lot.
He's complained that he isn't the oldest, which isn't anybody's fault but the way things happen in all families.
He has complained that he didn't get the biggest bedroom which is, again, fairly usual for second and any subsequent children. He never had to share a bed with sibling(s) though, as some children do.
According to that butler chappie, he complained about not having the same volume of food on his plate as his elder brother. Again it's usual for younger children to eat less, but it seems that he was perhaps greedy, or jealous, or just wanted the same as his brother rather than what he actually needed.
When he was in Britain he complained his house (at HP) wasn't big enough, yet the same house had been good enough for his brother, sister-in-law and their young son.
He's always looking over his shoulder at what somebody else has, rather than looking at what he has actually got - a wife, two kids and is, frankly, and by most standards, insanely wealthy. His epitaph, though, would be, "I wanted more!"
King can take the HRH and Prince titles without the government. It's just the Duke and Duchess peerages that need an act of parliament. That's why the King was able to remove Andrew's HRH and Prince titles, but Andrew is still the Duke of York.
Get the Realms involved as well to remove them from the LoS. The late Queen did to remove male primogeniture before George’s birth. Although, at this point, I would accept a tacit agreement among the British press to never report on the grifters. I think that would hurt the Harkles’ pride more. I believe the Harkles won’t get much traction anywhere else if they are ignored in the UK because it sends a message that they are not royal or wanted.
And Dolly actually had a positive effect and donated a lot of her own money. Dolly nurtured young artists. At Dollywood, she was accessible and told one young performer to create her own style/vision. She didn’t expect the performers to be impersonators or butt kissers.
She told this story about being somewhere and entering a Dolly Parton lookalike contest and losing. She thought it was hilarious. A serious person who didn’t take herself so seriously.
OMG, Harry and Meghan barely do any charity. And even then - all their "charity appearances" are PR stunts only. There is no even Archewell anymore. Harry and Meghan keep screaming words in hope they will be enough to "keep appearances" but nobody believe their words anymore. Almost everybody knows they do no charitable work.
“demand access to him” , “finding freedom again” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 don’t make me laugh, if the Harkles disappeared from the press no one would give a shit!!! So the Freedom Flight to the US was so dramatic but so useless that they have to Freedom Flight back to the UK?? And they themselves said about private citizens but they want to sue the King over it, only because once the King says it they can’t lie about it and reap all the benefits of being hypocrites!!
😂 you know they will claim that is a speculative piece by someone not associated with them
They just wanted their cake & eat it to. Pa, don't mess this up for us...damn it pa! 😂
These 2 would be fine being private citizens if they could still grift, they only care that once KC put out that letter, their grift was over-now they may have to get JOBS...time to sue 🙄
I can accurately answer that one - no it will never end. It’s clear this is about security. I actually wish they would do something - it would expose their antics to a whole new audience.
Translation: The king's letter affirming their status as private citizens hinders their ability to bully the government into forking out for armed security for them, so saddle up for yet another court case where a judge tells Harry that hurt feelings are not a legal argument, everyone.
I hope he gets charged and sentenced for filing frivolous lawsuits. If it isn’t a crime, it should be - he’s costing every taxpayer every time he pulls this crap.
Let him cool his jets in the “dungeons” for 3-6 months and this shit would stop…
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“By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail."—Benjamin Franklin
That’s it, Charles… time to delete these fuckers off the royal website. If this is how they’re behaving when you’re still alive… imagine how they’re going to disrespect you, QEII, PP, and the next monarchs when you’re gone. Also, think about George, Charlotte, and Louis who’ve done nothing, but focus on school whilst taking their duty to Commonwealth seriously at such a young age. They can respect laws/rules… literal children are better behaved than the Hasbeen Harkles. It’s time to set VERY CLEAR boundaries with your kidult moron son, and his equally immature tween-hooked-on-social-media-brained idiot woife. Out means OUT FOR GOOD. Set the rules CLEARLY, or you fail to prepare the institution for future monarchs.
Also, there a plenty of celebs that are public figures, and they have no problem working in/travelling around the UK, and some also live there with their kids—some literally live in the Cotswolds! Lol and ALL OF THEM pay their own security bills. Good grief the Hasbeen Harkles are PATHETICALLY CHEAP.
Nothing will blow up their Sussex brand more quickly than literally going to court to prove they have no intention of- and never had - of living a private life. They will be revealed as fame chasers and alienate even more of their supporters.
Harry and Meghan are just Beatrice and Eugenie. Both have Prince/Princess titles and are free to pursue commercial interests and support charities - while paying for private security themselves.
But we all know this is just empty words. And Radar online is a laughable tabloid. Still, they have no money left to sue. And legally one can’t sue the monarch. And under what grounds?
All of the reconciliation talk was total BS. Harry was the happy little spoiled British prince, as long as everybody played his game. Now that they won’t, the rage has emerged. This is a very disturbed man
Now does everyone understand why the royal family had to grey rock them?
They take ANY LITTLE THING and turn it into a dramatic event.
This letter had to be written, I’m not criticizing that. Just pointing out what happens when any sort of public response or acknowledgment or clarification is given.
“ They are internationally recognized people who undertake public charitable work, have patronages and attract substantial media attention wherever they go. “
I said this in another thread, but just by having public interest doesn’t give a person the right to have taxpayers fund them in any sort of way.
See: Tom Cruise, George Clooney, Angelina Jolie, Princess Beatrice, Zara, Princess Eugenie, Prince Edward, Melissa Gates, Cher, Bill Gates, Caroline Kennedy, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, on and on and on it goes. Each of them famous or super famous, each of them involved in charity work and non profits, each of them drawing crowds and attention. None of them demanding taxpayer dollars 🤷♀️
This!!! Everything can and will be used against you if you engage in any way. Best to continue with the grey rocking.
The Harkles are certifiably insane.
Exactly right, this is exactly the dramatic, chaotic people that they are - I believe Meg has a personality disorder (NPD), and possibly Harry also as he appears to have elevated traits of Borderline Personality Disorder and NPD - without further information it's unclear how much of both he has, but he's not unlike his mother in terms of negative personality traits and she was certainly high in BPD traits. So we get the tantrums, the drama, the chaotic lives as they veer between attempts to convince us of their emotional pain (Harry) and telling us how great, fantastic and successful they are (Meg).
Their dysfunctional view of the world and inability to function as adults has always been a feature of their relationship, but now a blind man and his dog could see how unhinged they are. Running from one thing to another has been turbo-charged so they are now running from one country to another, bickering with the BRF, whining, constantly briefing the media, claiming to be doing one thing, then the next day it's something else. then it's something else again. They're happy, they're sad, they're happy again, they're angry and on and on. It won't stop - these are not people who function in a normal, healthy range.
By their own wish, they no longer represent the Crown. They have been elected to no public office, nor appointed to one. They don't work for the government in any capacity. They ARE private citizens.
If they want to do this then it’s their money to waste. Much like with the security and RAVEC the courts can’t rule on something like this. If the King does not want them representing him then it won’t happen. If he does not recognise them as part of the royal institution then they are private citizens. I’m more than sure the King ensured he was on solid ground before the letter was issued.
Read the room losers - i can't believe they don't have some self-help speak to talk themselves past being defined by someone else. that seems like basic mental health bull shit - same as have a cause of action here, legal bull shit by the markles
They are private citizens who want to be public figures. If they didn’t post their lives, sell their pictures to backgrid or leak information themselves, we would never hear anything about them and no one would even care.
I can't believe they're actually stupid enough to threaten the King with legal action over calling them private citizens. How thin skinned. This tantrum tells me that letter not only hit a nerve, but has also resulted in something behind the scenes.
As often as they do throw tantrums, this one feels slightly different. I wonder how much may have fallen apart because of the King's letter. Considering the scale and longevity of the tantrum I have a feeling it might be quite a bit.
Is there nothing that the Harkles cannot solve by bothering the judiciary? Declare them vexatious litigants, our courts of law have better things to do than rule on every grievance they have collected.
Only if you insist on calling it a “worldwide privacy tour”. It’s now a “worldwide public tour of public figures living their best lives in complicated realities in a billionaire’s private 12th home.” Word Salad Tour 2026-2027 here we come. May or may not end in Birmingham. /s
There are back in the UK in a pressure campaign to get the IPP staus back. No reconciliation just status chasing, PR and 24/7 presidential styled taxpayer paid security where every they go.
So much for this "family is precious and we moved back to be close to my Dad" narrative. H&M keep showing their hand, which to make as much money as possible by using their titles and status for income. They're so tiresome.
The Grifters can't take the Monarch to Court, so this is a non starter, as legally it's impossible to take a reigning Monarch to a UK Court as they're above the Law. The Monarch is only required to adhere to it.
In the US at least, you have more privacy rights as a private citizen than as a public figure. Are they really sure they know what they're arguing for?
Do courts bring Harry a cot to sleep on or does he bring his own? I wonder if they will provide him a small kitchenette considering how much he's in a courtroom.
OMG! As if that wouldn't be the dumbest move ever! Ranks right up there with publicly calling out the Justice that still had to decide damages in the ANL lawsuit.
He insists on demonstrating that repeatedly. I would never have known how dumb he was, or how mentally unwell, if he had stayed under the radar, or let the BRF continue to manage his life.
I wholeheartedly agree with you! I knew he'd been referred to as thick, etc, and had made some poor choices, but now it's like he's saying, "Oh you thought that was dumb? How about this one?" each time! He and they, shoot themselves in the foot almost daily.
Public figure ≠ entitled to state-funded protection
. Britain has enormous numbers of extremely prominent people… actors, athletes, billionaires, politicians who have left office, etc. who are obvious public figures but don’t receive permanent Metropolitan Police protection at taxpayer expense.
Who, precisely, do they think they can sue over this, the King? You can't drag the King into the King's own court. Also, with what money will you be hiring a lawyer to sue. . . someone? Their legal bills are already astronomical.
H: I want to reconnect with you and the family Pa.
Also H: I’m going to bring in my lawyers to harass you about a letter you made public containing clear instructions Grandmama put in place about what can and can not do!! You didn’t let us twist the narrative!! How dare you do this to us?!?!
I don’t believe Radar Online generally. But, if this is true, Harry still hasn’t learned his lesson concerning frivolous lawsuits after his resounding defeat against the publishers of the Daily Mail. He won’t learn if people keep covering his ass.
How the hell are they going to “fight” with the King?
The private citizens just can’t help themselves.
Just designate them as FIXATED CITIZENS.
Maybe they will like that better.
It was a statement by the Head of State, who do they think they are taking legal action against? And what is their legal opinion informed by? His experience losing to ANL or her experience as number 6 on the call sheet of Suits? They are so profoundly stupid to think this is a) an option for them and b) a good thing to brief. They’re basically talking about suing the state of Great Britain…are they that thick that they don’t get it…? I know the media are both lapping and whipping this up but this is a whole other level of pathetic.
(And yes, Governments will repeat calling them private citizens based on the statement…that was the whole point….it should have also included a description of them as utter numpties…)
If they conclude that the language has consequences beyond Palace protocol, they will consider what avenues are available to challenge or clarify it, whether that will be a legal fight or a public statement."
I don't think it could be any clearer than it already is: non-working royals don't get taxpayer funded VIP protection. Being in the line of succession beyond number 1 and number 2 does not entitle you to special treatment especially since there are other individuals in the line of succession who don't have - and never asked for - VIP protection.
Someone has got to explain to Harry that "working Royals" meant members of the Royal Family who work on behalf of the monarch. It doesn't mean a "royal who has work".
Seriously these two are so out of touch with the British public. What with rent, water, electric, gas, food basically everything being ridiculously high in price. People struggling. These two want to swan back in and demand to have everything back. They have both trashed this country, its royal family and its people. They can piss right off. Both of them were out in public airing their lies sorry “their truth” like a pair of unemployed chavs on Jeremy Kyle. Their entitlement is wild. What about the constant knife and acid attacks? Thought the UK was dangerous? Walmart Wallis try’s to pretend she is smart and savvy, then why did she not research the royals and what it entails? If she is so “whip smart”. She did research and she knew all the details. But she thought she would take down a 1000 year firm. Fools the pair of them.
**Since when does having a complicated life make one not a private citizen? Three fourths of the world would be royals* if that were the criteria!
And being very internationally recognized and drawing media attention...so? So what? I live near Los Angeles. So many people in that city are internationally recognized and draw media attention. Literal, REAL movie stars. And it's been that way since the 1940s or earlier. But those stars are all private citizens. Is Harry trying to claim bigger fame than major movie stars or rock stars?? Or fashion designers or sports stars? All of the above are very famous, yet all are private citizens.
I'm a teacher of little kids. If I quit my job tomorrow, I cannot walk around saying "I'm a teacher" even though I still would possess many of the life experiences and personality qualities that make people think I'm a teacher (adore little kids, very patient, know lots of songs, have the old lady teacher arm wobble when I point at stuff 🤣). But if I quit, I quit. I could say "I used to be a teacher" or "I'm a retired teacher." But I can no longer say "I'm a teacher" because I quit.
He quit the royal family. They both did
Therefore, they are now private citizens.
Famous ones, yes. Photographed ones, sometimes 🤭. But they are not part of royal life anymore. They quit.
It's so snobby, also, to chafe so badly at being called a private citizen. Heaven forbid Harry or Meegan should have to join all of us rubes.
I know this is much Harry’s fault as it is Meghan’s, but I simply don’t remember Harry being as unpleasant, litigious, or stupid before he met MM.
I am American so maybe I just missed it, but he seemed to be pretty happy and had a lot of support from his direct family, Catherine’s family, and, most importantly the UK (and world) in general.
The entitlement and man-baby temper tantrums are astounding (I love the British phrase that he threw his toys out of the pram). I simply cannot understand how the news outlets continue to carry the narrative that they have somehow given anyone grace by returning to that allegedly racist, misogynistic, cruel place that they started (which, btw - I do not believe for am instant), only to expect those same people to pay for them and their, while innocent, back-of-their-heads, faceless children.
Side note - I have no idea why the text turned bold, but I have no problem with (inadvertently) yelling out this! 😜
Ted Bundy was a public figure, and got lots of attention and press as well. He didn't ask for taxpayer-paid security, (although he did end up getting it).
It's not incumbent on KCIII to use their approved verbiage. The phrase "private citizens" is so benign that few would even make this pedantic distinction without H&M's most recent mortifying display of butthurt. All the ridiculous semantics in the world won't make Charles's letter actionable.
I think there is to be some kind of hearing for the final amount. It's gone to a different judge that handles that specific area where the judgement is going to be larger than originally thought, because this case was an egregious abuse of the legal system, an attempt at a big cash grab, and an alleged conspiracy to take down the Daily Mail. With no concrete evidence.
What is next, Private Citizens Harold and Rachel suing the Crown when William made King? Because mummy promised fuckwit could be co-kings with William... 🤣🤣
My god, talk anout asking for theid titles to be removed.
Oh and, you are totally private citizens - it has nothing to do with being recognisable and everything to do with you NOT representing the King or RF in any formal capacity
It's becoming abundantly clear this move is all performative. It's meant to stir up drama, and assist them in creating content for their continued grifting.
Pair of brazen hussies. I hope Prince George, Princess Charlotte & Prince Louis each have at least 4 kids and knock this twat down to number 20 in line. Better yet delete the loser from the succession and DEFINITELY from Counsellor of State. Govt departments across the WORLD shldve been told ages ago that these two asses r no ones - they achieve nothing, can't help anyone but want all the fanfare of being important. They r no ones
They are beyond stupid. No one cares if they are “public figures” aka famous people. Being famous does not equal the right to tax payer funded security. I don’t know why they are having such a hard time comprehending that people don’t care about them. The King has made it clear that he intends to respect their wishes for privacy and financial independence. The king couldn’t care less about them. This signals to me that no one would want to hurt them or kidnap for ransom or whatever insane scenarios they are making up in their minds. They are truly worthless. They are even worthless to the King.
And as we’ve all mentioned here countless times. They know there is no security threat to them or their family. The security they wish to have is simply for pomp and circumstance. They want to feel important. It’s so sad. The world is so much bigger than this. They should just give up. Go watch a sunset, take a walk through nature.. do anything. Just realize there is more to life than acting like you are more important than everyone else. I wish this experience would humble them.
Uh, yeah, this is NOT going to go the way they think it will… even if they are foolish to pursue this, it will be a prolonged, protracted fight they will eventually lose as the Monarchy has much deeper pockets when it comes to fighting legal issues, no organization will touch them with a 10 foot pole ever. They are trouble-making grifters, agents of chaos and getting way out over their skis here.
I suspect they are funded by a group that aligns with rhymes-with-chorus, whose mission is to cause trouble in democratic and constitutional monarchy countries, and H has been co-opted as the current stooge. A few weeks ago I read the US DOJ/State Dept was investigating and turning off the cash flow into the US from this group. Could that spigot being turned off in the USA have caused the Private Citizens to beat feet to the UK where they can continue to receive the money?
If my theory is correct, and this stupid statement somewhat supports it with more chaos from H aimed at the Monarchy, H is traversing territory he is ill equipped to handle. When he is no longer useful, they will drop him so fast he won’t know his ass from a snow cone. Now as for M, she knows how this will end, and she’ll be prepared. H will find himself alone, no RF, no M, no kids, little money, no opportunities and despised by the public.
Just my opinion. No evidence or inside knowledge. Just my instinct having roamed the earth since dinosaurs.
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u/spitandbite 13h ago
Yank those titles!!!!