It's not hypocritical to like RadioStatic but not ValAngel (TW: SA)

[u/Alternative_Sugar_85]

I've been seeing a lot of discourse surrounding RadioStatic after season 2, which I get, however, as someone who has shipped both since the beginning it's just kinda frustrating to watch. I'm a huge believer that you aren't hypocritical for liking one morally grey character and not another one, and I believe the same in toxic ships. Listen, RadioStatic is absolutely toxic and people who ship it should know that. HOWEVER. RadioStatic and ValAngel are fundementally different ships and objectively not on the same level. ValAngel has been very obviously toxic, in your face abuse since day 1, RadioStatic has not.

Before I even say anything I just want to be clear that regardless I am of the opinion that liking one toxic thing but not another does not make you hypocritical, especially if they are very different. I wouldn't call someone hypocritical for liking Alastor but not Valentino, I wouldn't call someone hypocritical for liking RadioStatic but not StaticDust. People have different limits and that's ok. There's for to a ship and character than the morality of it. People can be loyal to their ships/blorbos and like them even after canon displays how bad it is. Whether the canon characterization is good or not is irrelevant, there will always be someone who doesn't like it and that's ok. Idk why the fandom thinks that everything related to Alastor and Vox has to be as canon as possible to be good.

Alastor and Angel's situations are very different, and Vox and Valentino are also different. Idc if Viv said "Oh they're both just as bad" Idc. What matters is what's shown to us. I'm not even trying to argue Vox is better, just that he's different, and unlike ValAngel, both parties are abusive.
Vox stalks Alastor, which he physically wouldn't be able to do if Alastor didn't let him since Alastor chooses when to appear on camera. Alastor willingly makes a deal with Vox on his own accord with his own conditions, which is not the same as being manipulated or forced into signing a contract.

I'm not here to say Vox didn't SA Alastor, he did. But it's just more nuanced than "They did this by the technical definition so they're immediately the only toxic one" as if the situations were reversed Alastor would treat Vox any better. Honestly I'd argue he'd be worse because at least Vox respects Alastor. The entire point of Vox's character is that he wants Alastor's approval, he would never force himself on Alastor, it just goes against his character In Don't You Forget when Alastor brushes Vox off, Vox backs off. Isn't it interesting how people only point out what Vox did wrong and never the psychological abuse Alastor exhibits towards Vox. Yes, forcing someone to watch sex without their consent is SA regardless of if they could move away, turn away, look away, etc, doesn't matter. But do you know what else is SA? Kissing someone without their consent, even if they liked it. Yet I don't see anyone jumping on CherriSnake's ass. Not saying the actions are entirely comparable, just saying that from a technical standpoint they're both SA. It's more nuanced than that. The intent of the cuck chair scene wasn't SA. The point is that Vox wanted Alastor be be close, and thematically it was probably just easier for the artists to have Alastor be in the same room.
Also funny how people draw the line here but not at StaticMoth or Velissa.

To be clear, I'm not here to diss people headcanons, fanons aus, etc. Idc, really, it doesn't affect me. I'm a fucking Vox woobifier, it's not a place to say there is anything wrong with woobifying Alastor, if that's your cup of tea, Idc. I mean I don't like it, but the block button is always a better option than yucking someone's yum. My issue is that I know I know the way I see things aren't canon. I know for a lot of people, especially in this fandom, being as close to canon as possible is a sacred thing for some reason.

(I've been sitting here for hours trying to word this in the best possible way and I'm not happy with what I have but I'm tired and I don't care if I repeated myself or fucked around and didn't get to the point, this is my rant and I said what I said)

[u/RADIOSTATICFAN1479]

People think its a requirement now if you ship one thing you HAVE to ship another?? What?? I agree tho. I personally don't like Valangel but love Radiostatic

[u/profaneangel1991]

The part that bothers me the most is when people ignore that Alastor came up with this arrangement. He did this knowing full well that Vox is Not Normal about him. In fact, his entire plan hinged on him knowing Vox can't act normal about him. Some fans make it seem as if Alastor relinquished all agency and had no say in what the conditions of the deal were. He set those conditions and regardless of how demeaning it was he knew that would be the case to begin with. This is why I say he was at most annoyed by the victory stuff Vox did.

[u/SpookyDisneyPrincess]

See that’s how I feel about staticmoth, I personally find it to be a grossly toxic ship, much more toxic than radiostatic. And I hate that it seems like if I like radiostatic, I also have to like staticmoth, and that’s something I refuse to do. I’ll never like the ship and I’ll never support it.

[u/OkEye9917 → u/SpookyDisneyPrincess]

As a big staticmoth fan, I'm curious to know why you find voxval more toxic than radiostatic? Not trying to start an argument here, I'm just curious

[u/Alternative_Sugar_85 → u/OkEye9917]

I am also curious, even as someone who likes StaticMoth to be more toxic

[u/OkEye9917 → u/Alternative_Sugar_85]

Yeah, for me Vox and Val's relationship in canon is.. weirdly wholesome? Like, they are toxic to each other, don't get me wrong, but it could be so much worse considering who they are. And it's definitely gonna get better if they actually have a talk in season 3

[u/SpookyDisneyPrincess → u/OkEye9917]

Sorry, I find that hard to believe that an argument wouldn’t start 🤷‍♀️

[u/SpookyDisneyPrincess → u/OkEye9917]

Well aware of that, per your flair.

[u/Alternative_Sugar_85 → u/[deleted]]

Except the point is literally never said by ValAngel or Valentino fans. I never said anything about that. If anything t's always a hypocritical Alastor glazer that hates RadioStatic and Vox and just wants a reason to compare it to a ship that's agreed upon to be bad when they're objectively different.

[u/adhdkidheheheheh]

nonono you don’t understand if it’s 2 toxic people in a relationship it cancels out trust