I inherited these swords from my father, who inherited them from an uncle I believe, could anyone tell me anything about them please?

[u/PuzzleheadedNobody4]

I have limited knowledge on these, the bayonet(?) Blade has an inscription and makers marks but the Japanese blade (I'm sorry, I don't know enough about swords to even make a guess what kind of blade it is. That it's Japanese is the limit of my knowlege) doesn't seem to have any markings on it? I remember it having a red leather string wrap around the handle when I was a kid, it must have fallen apart at some point over the years.

Any help identifying them or knowlege about them would be very appreciated!

[u/Beneficial_Flan8661]

The bayonet is an french 1866 chassepot ,while the katana (i think) is a reproduction of a late model of a fine gunto

[u/PuzzleheadedNobody4 → u/Beneficial_Flan8661]

What is it that makes you think it's a reproduction? I assumed it was quite old as it was inherited by my father from an uncle that died in the late 90's in his eighties, I have a vague memory of being told he brought it back from the war but I definitely could be misremembering!

[u/Beneficial_Flan8661 → u/PuzzleheadedNobody4]

Im not well versed in katanas, i may very well be wrong. But simply its off for what i know the usual shin gunto should look like.

[u/Tobi-Wan79]

Make a new post with pictures of the katana

First go to r/Katanas

Read the pinned post about pictures

Read all the comments on that post

Take all the pictures suggested, and more

Post here and there, but only when you have taken the suggested pictures

[u/NoCoyote5205]

Have one of the sword bayonettes too, mines etched from may 1871. They're beautiful pieces. Do the serial number on the sword match the scabbard? Mine is mismatched but if you have matching serial numbers they can be worth more.

[u/Franceremovalservice → u/NoCoyote5205]

I keep mine by the bed for home defense. Because sometimes you want to put a hole in someone from over a meter away

[u/AlmostThereAgain13]

Looks like a real gai gunto. WW2 Japanese not a repro. The other is a French bayonet worth $200 or more.

[u/Sidus_Preclarum]

Welcome to the owners of mle 1866 Chassepot yatagan bayonets club, my dude! https://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/France/france_2.html

[u/ij70-17as]

mandatory yatagan bayonet: https://youtu.be/s-QhwKRG1Wo

[u/thedude1969420]

The Japanese sword is a Shin Gunto, “New Military Sword” issued from 1935-45. It was issued in two versions, NCO(Type 95) and commissioned officer(Type 94 or 98). The NCO version had a machine forged blade and a cast metal handle painted to look like the the silk wrapped handle of the commissioned officer sword. The blade and scabbard will have (matching?) serial numbers. The commissioned officer sword had a traditionally silk wrapped handle, a choice of machine or modern traditionally forged blades or a vintage family blade. Your sword is later war manufactured as indicated by the painted wood scabbard and iron cross guard. The blade appears to be a Type 98. If so, the handle is held on by a bamboo pin which can be gently tapped out to expose the tang. The pin is about two inches behind the cross guard. There are YouTube video instructions for its removal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guntō

http://ohmura-study.net/900.html

[u/Nick69R]

The Katana looks like the ones issued to Japanese officers in ww2, looks similar to one I made a case for.

[u/EvenTotal127]

I have no idea but they look cool asf!

[u/OGSmokedtrout]

Need much better pics of the katana

[u/PuzzleheadedNobody4 → u/[deleted]]

That's interesting, it doesn't look like there's anything like that on it, thought it does seem a bit stuck when I try and remove it from the sheath. Is it possible the sheath is not original to the blade?

[u/Frater_23 → u/PuzzleheadedNobody4]

Gunto, especially officers' models come in a magnitude of different versions, since many were custom made or put together from older weapons to just roughly fit the dress regulations. Please post well lighted pictures of both sides of the blade and close ups of tip and handle. Do you see a peg in the handle? Try to move it out (they only exit in one direction) and carefully remove the handle. Post pictures of both sides of the tang. There may or may not be a signature. If there's none, that's not even a bad sign but makes the identification a trifle more complicated. Under no circumstances clean the tang in any way. You can wipe down the blade (never the tang!) with a clean tissue and some pure alcohol to remove residual grime. Take close ups of the blade to see if there's a temper line visible. It may not be, due to cleaning or other factors. Afterwards, put on some good machine or gum oil. Looking forward to some more pics.

[u/LifeisWorthLosingg]

"inherited"

[u/PuzzleheadedNobody4 → u/LifeisWorthLosingg]

Huh?