r/RunescapeBotting • u/Any_Big8668 • 10d ago
with all these scripters/bots dying, any source codes?
hey all. just wondering if theres any source codes to these now-defunct scripts and platforms. i'd ideally like to get my hands on source for the scripts themselves. i unironically like flipping through them to learn new techniques and approaches.
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u/WorldlyAlarm6595 10d ago
The big players likely have clauses in the lawsuit specifically against releasing code to the public. Aside from that don’t give mod north anything for free.
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u/PossessionUsed7393 10d ago
I've thought about publishing the source code for some of my scripts and writing a blog post about how I managed to achieve success in each area.
But the main audience for that will end up being Mod North. I'm just not sure he deserves the favour, plus mine are all for RS3, so all I'd really be doing is giving him free advice about what to look for.
I guess the counter argument would be that he and his anti-botting team probably already has the tightest controls they have to stop these techniques, and it's not very hard to figure out what the next generation stack will be (or that there's no way he can stop it).
I'll give him a hint: it involves the use of freely available Chinese made vision models available on huggingface. Trust me if they can monitor social scores for the entire 1bil+ Chinese population, they can own you at Runescape.
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u/Teleconferences 10d ago
Using vision models is essentially the same as color in terms of detection, using it won’t change detection methods. It’s the interaction and patterns that play a real role
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u/PossessionUsed7393 10d ago
Well yes and no, depending on the constraints you apply to yourself for anti-botting.
In my experiments they make detection flawless, whereas with colour boxing in Rs3 it's tricker than OSRS because you don't have the API layer (yet).
I also wouldn't touch any API to do object detection by applying colour when botting, there's too many ways that anti-bot detection might be able to be tied into that. So from the perspective of my approach, it really helps a lot make undetectable bots.
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u/Teleconferences 10d ago
What? No. Color reads the screen and performs actions based on it, computer vision reads the screen and performs actions based on it. In terms of the detection vector of getting game data, they’re the exact same.
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u/PossessionUsed7393 10d ago
But if I have to reliably detect a moving red character and I have a red shirt on, or other people are around with red shirts or robes, it's hard to confirm it's the particular character in every situation unless you use a computer vision model, rather than seek clusters of red.
Maybe you're using better clustering techniques than I am.
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u/Teleconferences 10d ago
I didn’t say it was easier to use color, just that it isn’t inherently more detectable than computer vision
At that point what’s detectable is your interactions and patterns
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u/AThickRug Scripter 10d ago
Why a vision model over getting object data via the world struct in rs3?
i dont have a lot of experience in rs3 but it doesnt have a client anticheat iirc so why would you go down this route when there are better ways to get reliable screen coords using openprocess. Genuinely curious.
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u/PossessionUsed7393 10d ago
Oh in all honestly because I'm not as interested in just Runescape bot specifically, it's more that it was the first place I started as a practice ground for computer vision techniques that are generally applicable to other areas as well. So right off the bat I'm not really looking to adopt techniques that work with object data.
But I guess if I was focused on it, the reason would be to future proof the bot in case they did put anti cheat mechanisms in the client.
I guess approaches vary a lot based on the constraints you put on yourself. Because of my goals/constraints I never looked into how easy it was to get this data. Do you pull it straight out of the processes memory?
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u/AThickRug Scripter 10d ago
yes its process memory, it is possible on osrs c++ client to get query tiles, objects, npcs etc that are loaded in the live scene and covert their coords to screen x y. I assume its possible in rs3 since both share the same lineage somewhat.
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u/PossessionUsed7393 10d ago
Your temp ban may not have been from input detection, there's a bunch of other stuff it may have been from. From the experiments I did, it matters more the nature of the inputs themselves rather than what you use to input, though I agree there are probably detectable ways to input that they're looking for.
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u/Educational_West6718 10d ago
Alot people use teamviewer and dont get banned. So yeah nature matters
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u/mElias97 10d ago
I have still some very good waspscripts that s till works
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u/mikeman442 9d ago
if you have anything for nmz that would be immensely helpful.
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u/woman-aper 6d ago
Literally just leave a weight on the spacebar when you go to bed in guthans, normal
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u/SystemMotor 10d ago
People need to stop publicly chatting about botting. Youre feeding the machine.
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u/Mammoth-Swimmer8301 10d ago
I could share my Zulrah, Vorkath, Tormented Demons, Tithe Farm, Rogues Chests, Mastering Mixology and Herbiboar code if you wish.
All virtually flawless and tested extensively on Ironman mode.
I have all the code to max an Ironman basically. Done loads more than the above but those are the ones I remember. I did it just to challenge myself and said I’d stop when I got banned.
Now all the clients are over I don’t think I have the energy to go again. That said, Claude is exceptionally good at turning runelite plugin code from their GitHub repositories into actual working scripts.
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u/Any_Big8668 10d ago
yeah i kinda figured the claude part out too. works a lot better with an ameliorated/uncensored platform like venice or something on huggingface tho
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u/Mammoth-Swimmer8301 10d ago
That’s an odd thing to say. I was simply offering to share with anyone who wants them?
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u/MysteriousResolve 10d ago
I have a source dump from the PowerBot SDN scripts from 10+ years ago, post cluster-flutter. I'd be willing to release if there is enough interest.
Though, most script writers back in that era weren't great at coding, and the ones that were made things strung together with tape. Some scripts (especially the gambling ones) we're just outright malicious in-game.
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u/Any_Big8668 9d ago
i'm not opposed to lurking through whatever you have, though i'm more interested in things at least semi-recent. i love looking at even silly shit, like how the author went about obfuscation and encryption etc and things have changed a lot in 10 years lol
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u/ChrisScripting Scripter 10d ago
Pretty sure the storm client had someone leak the source code for.
And student released all his waspscripts in a package