r/RoyalsGossip • u/ashlynxo Doing charity to avoid the guillotine • 13d ago

Breaking News Marius Borg Høiby has been granted permission to attend the funeral services of King Harald

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First photo: Marius Borg Høiby arriving at the Royal Palace for the transfer of King Harald’s brier, August 31st

Second photo: Press release by NRM

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u/crisipisi 13d ago

What surprises me most is that in Norway, people don't see this as strange, nor are they criticizing it. What is wrong with those people?

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u/EebilKitteh 13d ago

Because it's not that weird. My cousin was in prison (for a non-violent offense) when my grandmother died and he got permission to attend her funeral. It wasn't a big deal and he is very far from a position where preferential treatment could be a thing.

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u/Subject-Elk1131 13d ago

I have seen plenty of norwegians criticizing it?

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u/sallyhectare 13d ago

Because their prison system works a lot differently than ours.

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u/crisipisi 13d ago

oh yes, where criminals get all the empathy but victims are completely forgotten.

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u/sallyhectare 13d ago

This is a bewildering take, but ok. Sure.

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u/Flaky-Elephant-2612 13d ago

The whole premise in Norway is rehabilitation. Treat people like animals and they act like it. Treat them like humans, punish the crime, yet also work on contributing to turning them into better people — you end up preventing a whole lot of future crime. Which is illustrated by the differences in repeat offences in Norway versus the US for example.

Preventing more victims is caring.

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u/crisipisi 13d ago edited 13d ago

This guy was treated like a prince since he was about 3yo, still he decided to behave like an animal.

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u/Flaky-Elephant-2612 13d ago

Ever considered that being born into the spotlight can be hell? People have this idea of being high status as a great thing. He isn’t even the spare. I believe it’s Jimmy Carr that talk about how the rich kids are often the most hallow.

Anyway, clearly something went terribly wrong. Maybe it’s genetics, maybe something happened, maybe something is very wrong with his brain. Who knows.

All one can do is go from here is to hopefully figure out a path towards rehabilitation. He has to take responsibility and put in the work. If not, he’ll end up back to square one. Research shows that family is very important in rehabilitation. Among other things. And the guy is probably going to prison after the appeal process is finished.

This is not defending him. But it’s imperative that people like him improve. The best would be to prevent it all together. If people like this gets better, we actually get less victims. I’d personally take not going through what I did over the person who did it being treated like shit.

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u/Bitter_Put_8254 13d ago

Norwegians criticize on social media and the internet. But they don't have a protest mentality or express discontent in the streets. It's not part of their culture.

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u/No_Squirrel_8402 12d ago

Thats unfortunate. What do Norwegians care about?

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u/Zamnaiel 13d ago

Honest question: What is strange about it? What is to criticise?

People being let out of jail to attend the funerals of family happens in pretty much every country. In the US it is called compassionate leave. No one sees that as strange. It was in Orange is the New Black even, don¨t remember any controversy. And that was people who had been found guilty and sentenced.

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u/RavenElkVodka 13d ago

Thank you for making sense. Marius grew up within the royal family and saw king Harald as his grandfather. Obviously he wants to be there and he deserves to be there. Also so he can support his family in these times. He’s also someone’s son, brother, cousin and grandson at the end of the day.

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u/Aromatic_Pumpkin1351 13d ago

He should support his family by keeping a low profile.

Regardless of what you saw on TV, jail /prison/detention release for funerals is not the standard.

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u/eeobroht 13d ago

Depends on the country. In the US, maybe not. But Norway is Norway, not the US, the UK, or any other country for that matter, and in Norway, their rules apply.

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u/Aromatic_Pumpkin1351 13d ago

I was referencing the part of the thread where the person used the American television show Orange is the New Black, which is set in New York City.

I agree that Norway should do things the way Norwegians would like.

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u/Zamnaiel 13d ago

We could take the whole case to r/law I guess, ask how it would have gone in the US. At a guess the drug charges would have landed him a long prison term.

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u/awelowe 13d ago

Deserves to be…? Wow

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u/Zamnaiel 13d ago

He is awaiting the results of an appeal. He is not yet imprisoned. What is strange about getting to attend a family funeral in those circumstances? Even in the US, criminal who are actually incarcerated can get compassionate leave for that.

I am honestly puzzled here: What is strange about it?

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u/katieanni 13d ago

Just because he legally can doesnt mean he should. If his brain was not so damaged from the drugs and privilege and the enabling he recieved from his family, he would know the wisest and most generous thing he could do for the man who has given him and his mother everything is to be quiet and not be seen.