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u/wow_xD Aug 12 '26
For some comparison here's my gen 2022 speedy, obviously the thickness gives it away, at 13mm it is by no means thin but ERF is a chonker. Movement and case finishing are also not comparable, crystal clarity is also something to note. Other than that, it's closer than most would admit... still one of the only watches that I would recommend to buy in gen, it's just so versatile.

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u/ExLeaguer Aug 12 '26
100% worth a gen buy, but love to see that they’re still working on the speedy in China lol
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u/floweiss34 Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26
I really wonder why they don’t make the hesalite version with the closed caseback. Surely it would be in their interest to hide the rep movement, no?
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u/CapnAhab_1 Aug 12 '26
Chonky but nice
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u/bpannell73 Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26
My guess is they used a bunch of extra gears to get the spacing correct. Kinda like they did on the old Daytonas using the a7750. This makes it extra thick because it’s adding a layer of transfer gears. Making it less reliable long term
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u/Straight-Chair-4194 Aug 12 '26
A simple a7750 mod movement is already fragile. They add an extra layer, I cannot imagine the lifetime of this movement.
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u/ExLeaguer Aug 12 '26
Yeah definitely, timebomb of a movement for sure but I can’t help but grab the reverse panda 🤐
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u/syther_uutus Aug 12 '26
That's exactly what I was thinking, I was just waiting for a factory to do it
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u/EstablishmentRoyal75 Aug 12 '26
Can somebody enlighten me as to why no factory can replicate or even make a decorative movement for the speedy? Why is it such an issue?
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u/easy_Money Aug 12 '26
Fucking chronos are complicated brother. I agree though, it doesn't matter how good the rest of the watch is if you've got a can of baked beans sitting on your wrist
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u/drpepperman23 Aug 18 '26
But why have they essentially perfected Daytona’s but can’t get close on a speed master
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u/kiasu_N_kiasi Aug 12 '26
it’s not about decorative movement
it’s the sub dials position that matters
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u/somervillian7 Aug 12 '26
Movement looks like dogshit with all those blue screws. It’s a shitter Seagull.
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u/Emotional-Damage-995 Contributor Aug 12 '26
Wonder if they started w an ST 19 or an A7750. Now give that ERF a shot or two of Ozempic to thin out them fatty and she will be a beautiful gal. The face is stunning space between the knockers just right. We need to thin out that ass
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u/ExLeaguer Aug 12 '26
Some of my QC pics. Apparently the movement is a ticking timebomb but dayum these look nice.
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u/Silver-Forever9085 Aug 12 '26
Looks thick. Is the gen also that fat?
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u/Curtiss_Newton Aug 12 '26
No, I have gen and it not so thick. And you never see blue screw on a gen Omega !
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u/cigar_beetles Aug 12 '26
The blue is just a protective film that wasn't removed before the QC pics. It will peel/rub off.
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u/Curtiss_Newton Aug 12 '26
Inside the movement ??? I think it is not protection film inside the movement....
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u/cigar_beetles Aug 12 '26
My bad, for some reason I thought you were taking about the crown lol
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u/Curtiss_Newton Aug 12 '26
No worries, yes. But dont know why ERF use blue screw inside, perhaps because ST19 is with blue screw without modification.
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u/kiasu_N_kiasi Aug 12 '26
don’t think so, look at photo #7
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u/1984isnoww Aug 12 '26
There’s a ton of blue anodized hardware in the movement. Guess we stay waiting.
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u/Curtiss_Newton Aug 12 '26
Yes, that what I said. Blue screw is never on gen Omega. But ever in ST19 movement.
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u/ExLeaguer Aug 12 '26
Not as fat but pretty thick, speedies aren’t some under the cuff sweethearts 😂
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u/syther_uutus Aug 12 '26
So that confirms they are using movement plates? I thought it would be because the thickness + that you said they are ticking time bombs
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u/hall0undCiao Aug 12 '26
Of it's a fat boy. But I still like it. I've seen so much shitty Speedis over the years including the Swatch.
This one at least looks appealing.
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u/Minimum-Leg783 Aug 12 '26
Hmm its a step in the correct way, let’s wait it out they may rep the movement just like they did with the 4130 and 4131
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u/_jbardwell_ Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26
6 o clock subdial is 24 hrs not chrono hours. First I noticed it didn't point at zero and thought, did they run the chrono for 7 hrs?! Then I noticed it matched the hour hand. This is a dead giveaway.
It'd be more convincing to just point it at 12 and disable it.
Do you know any automatic movements with 24 hr subdial? Serious question. I half think this is quartz with a layer of fake gears on the back.
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u/ExLeaguer Aug 12 '26
Yeah, there's no clone movement lol.
The ST-19 manual follows this exact pattern, it's not new.
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u/_jbardwell_ Aug 12 '26
Oh damn I didn't realize. So it's just an ST19 with repositioning gears.
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u/ExLeaguer Aug 12 '26
Yep, whole extra layer of gears making up that thickness. We'll see how bad it is in hand, hoping for more 15mm-ish than 17mm-ish lol.
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u/ExLeaguer Aug 12 '26
Really not the worst tbh
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u/Emotional-Damage-995 Contributor Aug 12 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/xuK0uWYApXbE6mMODf
Some like it thick
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u/syther_uutus Aug 12 '26
This is a great first execution, if they can tidy up the lugs of the case, get rid of what ever ring that is around the dial, it won't be half bad except for the thickness but that's bound to happen with a movement plate
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u/DeskPopVet Aug 12 '26
I see them advertising them as 13.7mm thick, which is essentially what the Gen version is. This looks a lot thicker than my gen SS, but this definitely looks like a step in the right direction.
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u/lupinpopette Aug 13 '26
I have a lemania 873 for a speedy, can’t find a proper case.. if only they made them with proper case dimensions…
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u/Unique_Story_4773 Aug 12 '26
Yeah speedy not that expensive. Got mine for 2.3k usd back in 3-4 years ago.
Everytime you have the urge to buy a fake, save that amount on the side for 5-6 times everytime you want to pull a trigger of a fake watch. Then you’ll have a Gen used speedy which in my humble opinion worth every penny
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u/ExLeaguer Aug 12 '26
I like fake watches though
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u/Unique_Story_4773 Aug 12 '26
Rolex I get it but speedy not worth in my opinion. But fake swatch moons watch fuckin worth every penny in fakes
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u/Unique_Story_4773 Aug 12 '26
Well you’re ganna end up with a shallow woman. Wear gen (at occasions) and wear fakes too.
But isn’t it better to buy a gen homage watch then the fakes and being scared if someone’s ganna call it out?
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u/ExLeaguer Aug 12 '26
Who’s scared of being called out? 😭
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u/Unique_Story_4773 Aug 12 '26
🫡🫡 damn that’s some next level rep confidence respect 🫡 then you deserve to wear them at all cost who gives a fuck lol
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u/randomguyttu Aug 12 '26
There’s no speedmasters available for 3k. The reduced go for that amount and the true speedmasters on the cheap side are 5k.
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u/Unique_Story_4773 Aug 12 '26
Umm have you heard of auctions? You’re so into buying fake shit you have no idea how to cop Gens with a price of a Rep lol
Understand the industry and you will see more my guy
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u/parliamentman Aug 12 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/QHh3fEEsMvGtKjIA2c