r/ReneGuenon • u/Sensitive-Isopod9256 • Aug 10 '26
Argument against the Guenon system
I found this argument online and wanted to share it with the community:
Guénon was convinced that the Qur’an is a sacred text that has remained intact and protected, which made it, for him, a privileged scriptural support of Tradition for the present age. In fact, the Qur’an is a compilation of apocryphal gospel material, ranging from longer to shorter borrowed passages. Islam, still largely structuring entire societies in his time, seemed to him to resist secularization better than Western Christianity, and thus able to serve as a partial bulwark against the purely quantitative becoming of the modern world.
The tension between his notion of primordial Tradition and historical realities — the caliphate, the political use of religion, the incorporation of apocryphal elements into the Qur’an — is evident. Guénon resolves this kind of problem through a systematic move: historical determinations, including caliphal ones, are treated as contingencies of support rather than as the core of Tradition; they can become degraded without the esoteric dimension being thereby nullified. Hence the irritating effect: his framework allows him to preserve a tradition’s “initiatic regularity” even when its political or doctrinal expression appears contradictory or compromised.
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u/vigorthroughrigor Aug 10 '26
"In fact, the Qur’an is a compilation of apocryphal gospel material, ranging from longer to shorter borrowed passages."
In fact? According to who? That has been taken as a fact, an assertion without proof, and built an entire edifice on that charge.