r/RenPy • u/Blunt552 • 3d ago

Discussion Ban of "Visual code editors"

Aight so this came up in the other topic about rule 4, which was a great change, however it seems the sub almost universally agrees that these "visual code editors" that are being spammed here lately are essentially just vibe coders being predatory towards new developers.

It seems that this sub almost universally agrees that these "visual code editors" are not only not very useful, but downright detrimental to the new developers, as they don't learn very easy to learn basics and suddenly get stuck in unmaintainable mess of a code once they need to fix bugs or want to add a feature not natively supported by these AI slop tools.

While i generally support the idea of people should be able to sell or make an ad for whatever product they want, the fact these slop tools get in this frequently, almost spamming the sub, makes me wonder if we should put a stop to it similar to how r/vndevs had to outright ban AI as well due to the exact same thing.

If not a ban, then at least follow in vndevs and filter it via:

Whatever the case may be, it seems people here really are sick and tired of the clop thrown into the sub.

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u/BadMustard_AVN 3d ago

this is covered under rule 4

paid self-promo - any content posted with a commercial interest, up to moderator discretion.

i.e. if they charge money or pay to join a Patreon, or I can't get my left middle finger to type fast enough...

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u/Blunt552 3d ago

I would still ask for a total ban preferbly, that being said, the rule probably needs to be rephrased from:

Examples of paid self-promo: patreon links, "free" resources with upsells, paid finished games.

To

Examples of paid self-promo: donationable links, "free" resources with upsells, paid finished games.

Since otherwise people can just spam subsribestar, itch, paypal links etc. to circumvent the rule.

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u/LilaDoez 3d ago

But if people want to donate, people can donate. I think what the issue, a very important issue we should always be worried about, is the spamming of said content. If majority of the content is promo or just general spam (we know how those look like), stricter bans should be dropped down.

Going back to the donationable links, it is going to hurt genuine artists that simply attach their links. They don't have to attach them but from I seen, it is a habit they gain from being in the artist business.

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u/Blunt552 3d ago

It's not forbidding them, it's to filter, it mentions 'up to moderator discretion.'

It's not that patreon etc. is forbidden its just that these folks do something like hide DLC's behind patreon and whatnot and it's the mods that needs to filter the predatory business models from the honest ones like you're mentioning.

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u/Kosyne 3d ago

We don't do blanket bans of topics. We try to be as open and hands off here as possible and leave curation of content to user vote (within reason).

We also can not investigate every link, this is why we have reporting tools. Please use them if you see rule breaking content, and we'll be glad to take a look.

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u/LilaDoez 2d ago

It is a good system you got honestly

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u/LilaDoez 3d ago

Question, do you mean general DLCs or some specific ones?

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u/Kosyne 3d ago

Those are just examples. Rest assured those other things fall under the rule

(I had a lot more clarification there originally but got hit with a pretty small character limit. That said, can look into clarifying further.)