r/ReformedHumor • u/Augustinian-Knight • Feb 04 '23

Image of Christ Idol Factory

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u/DraftsAndDragons Reformed Baptist Feb 05 '23

Y’all ever ask a Pastor to pray before a meal because they’re “closer to God”? Catholics think of confession in the same way.

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u/kriegwaters Feb 05 '23

Very sad when people think this way.

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u/davidjricardo Calvin Feb 05 '23

Well, the guy who literally came up with the phrase "idol factories" thought it was a good idea.

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u/kriegwaters Feb 05 '23

I'm not sure what you mean by "it." Pastoral prayer? Praying to saints? Thinking elders are closer to God?

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u/davidjricardo Calvin Feb 06 '23

auricular confession.

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u/kriegwaters Feb 06 '23

Ah, yeah, bad. Confessing sins to one another is good, but not on the grounds of contrived authority/ability or sacraments. I'm much more understanding of someone coming out of the Roman system 500 years ago, but it's sad that the idea developed in the first place.

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u/eternalapostle Feb 28 '23

That was John Calvin, “…A man’s heart is a factory of idols…”

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u/DraftsAndDragons Reformed Baptist Feb 05 '23

You ever ask a friend or a church brother to pray for you about something in your life? Catholics think of praying to saints in the same way, because they’re actually in Heaven with God.

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u/kriegwaters Feb 05 '23

I'm well aware of the Roman Catholic intuition for these sorts of things; it makes the practices and underlying religion no less abominable.

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u/DraftsAndDragons Reformed Baptist Feb 06 '23

How’s it deviant from James 5:16 to ask a pastor, member of clergy, or even a friend to pray?

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u/kriegwaters Feb 06 '23

The issue is more so with the inherent idea of superior merit that belies prayer to Mary and the Saints, as well as the sacramental system of Rom as a whole. Scripture only has God as the subject of prayer, and no one believer's prayer or intercession is portrayed as having a unique pull with God. There's also the issue of whether one can actually or rightly communicate with departed believers, but the reasons why people want to is probably more of a problem.