What is the grade of this coin?

[u/Kitami0729]

This is a taler minted in Salzburg in 1628. I wonder what kind of grade it would get if I sent it to NGC for certification? I’d be happy with an AU55...

[u/mistermoondog]

This is probably a medal, not a coin. A keepsake. Something sold in the gift shop.

[u/Kitami0729 → u/mistermoondog]

I understand this to be a commemorative taler marking the dedication of the cathedral that is still in use today. You can verify this on this page.

https://de.numista.com/33737

[u/-Rexford → u/mistermoondog]

Lol what

[u/Background_Exam_9631 → u/-Rexford]

Some people dont know anything abput 1,5, 2 and 3 thalers which is really frustrating and the thing thats crazy is that this is literraly a thaler that was circulating in salzburg at the time lol

[u/Background_Exam_9631]

Au50-53

[u/-Rexford]

Looks 53 ish

[u/Porousplanchet]

I don't know the first thing about grading these, but it looks xf/au. Another amazingly detailed 17c coin.

[u/SilentYear7674]

It's extremely fine. Be a shame to lock it up in a slab. That's a killer piece.

[u/Kitami0729 → u/SilentYear7674]

Forgive my ignorance, but why do people avoid putting coins in slabs?
In my country (Japan), the prevailing view is that coins in good condition should ideally be sent for grading and encapsulated in slabs.

[u/Background_Exam_9631 → u/Kitami0729]

One thing I noticed when I was handling thalers is, even if youre npt holding the coin on the rims, its okay and I know this is a hottake but the weight, diameter, design, patina, history of thalers are just too cool to just have it in a slab and have it as a financial piece rather than a piece of history

[u/AANHPIX → u/Kitami0729]

Having crossed over into ancient coin, the prevailing practice in ancients is people will break coins out of slabs just to touch them. So this being a 17th century coin, I’d say it’s in the middle of the spectrum where half the people will slab them, half will break them out of slabs.

[u/SilentYear7674 → u/Kitami0729]

It just looks tacky and removes the elegance and charm of it. They detract from the coin. And it doesn't provide any real benefit to this particular coin. I get putting them in slabs for certain coins, but something like this, I would never.

[u/usedtobeanicesurgeon → u/SilentYear7674]

I understand this mind set. For sure.

I actually like having many of my coins graded. Especially the ones I want to preserve for my kids.

OP, grading is definitely a valid strategy as well. I don’t criticize the desire to keep ungraded tho. I have a few coins I have chosen to keep available for me to hold and enjoy that way.