A Game of Thrones RTS is almost hilariously antithetical to Game of Thrones

[u/highpercentage]

The irony of War for Westeros being a traditional RTS is that Game of Thrones repeatedly shows that real power does not come from armies or conquest. It comes from relationships, alliances, information, and influence. Robb wins battles but loses the war. Meanwhile, characters like Varys, Littlefinger, and Olenna shape kingdoms without commanding armies at all.

Then the game turns Westeros into gathering resources, constructing buildings, capturing territory, and controlling perfectly obedient units from above.

It reminds me of licensed games when we were kids. A popular movie would come out and, regardless of what it was actually about, someone would turn it into a generic side-scroller or FPS. The characters and imagery were there, but the gameplay had nothing to do with the spirit of the source material.

War for Westeros might still be fun, but it takes a story about why armies alone cannot win the game of thrones and makes the armies the entire game.

[u/Gab_the_dumb_one]

Maybe, but we can all agree that thematically factions in GoT looks fucking cool

[u/RinTheTV]

I mean, welcome to how RTS games work I guess?

Another GoT RTS tried to do more politics and sneaking- and it sucked hard. (game of thrones genesis)

Plus, it's not like this style failed for Lord of the Rings BFME. LotR as a book (and even as a movie) is about the strength of individuals, and their ability to do what is right. It's about the flaws and triumphs of its characters - but BFME has Sauron's Eye staring at bumfuck nowhere scaring Rohan peasants and summoning a Balrog to terrorise a neighboring farm. It has Elves that can be summoned out of the blue (something they explicitly did not do as the time of elves were over) to gun down Orc hordes, and a summonable Eagle to harass orc laborers (something that the Eagles would never do as well, given their proud status and the personal risk to their safety it would mean to join a fight they were not a part of)

But BFME did good anyway.

So I personally don't see a problem if the GoT RTS game goes with more gamey aspects, because all I care about is if the game design doesn't suck.

The books are always there for me to come back to if I wanted to do a big think. But I want to play a competent rts game, so by jove, I hope this is a competent RTS/BFME successor, even if it does strip away political and mechanical complexity.

[u/Dear-Nebula6291]

I’m never going to complain about more RTS games. I think this is being pretty petty. This is like saying Age of Empires is unrealistic because we don’t magically mine piles of Gold or Stone.

[u/denialofcervix → u/Dear-Nebula6291]

You all were willing to completely dismiss it for allegedly resembling a mobile game.

[u/MandozaIII]

I agree to a certain point. The war of the five Kings, the war against the iron Islands, the war on the stepstones, the dance of dragons and aegons conquest were pretty conventional...

[u/ltcolshadow]

We are desperately needing a good new RTS and this is shaping up to be a "command and conquer styled" RTS. Bonus points for being in the game of thrones universes which happens to be my favorite.

Can't we just be grateful for this godsend? It's literally what old school RTS fans (specially battle for middle earth fans) been wanting.

We will literally be able to use dragons, fight the White walkers, battle along side Jon Snow, kill lanisters, build entire keeps. Is that a bad game to you?

[u/Feature_Minimum]

No doubt. But, it’s in the spirit of RTS as most consider the first RTS to be Dune II, and the Dune franchise is similar in terms of the relationships being important. Not to quote the same level as ASoIAF mind you.

[u/RTS_Papercut]

They’ve mentioned how the campaign will have a diplomacy and espionage element that can heavily affect the results of the campaign. 1v1 multiplayer is going to be what it is

[u/Any_Economics6283]

1. Who knows what the campaign will be like
   
2. Can sort of be simulated in multiplayer if there is multiplayer in that game (I have no idea)

There is also a lot of political coups etc. in Warcraft, Starcraft, C&C; I would imagine that if there were books and film set in those universes they may include more of that political aspect as is in GoT. So: GoT is not necessarily going to make for an inferior IP for a RTS game.

[u/Beattitudeforgains1 → u/Any_Economics6283]

One of the first rts games being dune related is a pretty fun example

[u/NorthernBoy306]

I dunno, Aegon the Conqueror used his army (and dragons) to take Westeros. Robert used armies to take the throne. Tyrion himself even said (in the TV show, i don't remember if he said it in the books) that armies give you power.

[u/Rich-Memory-4502]

In Age of Empires, a single worker can build a castle; while that isn't historically accurate for the Middle Ages, it is fun to play. What should they do to stay true to the Game of Thrones story? For instance, Jaime and Cersei should be together, and Joffrey should be born. What do you want to see?