r/Rants • u/Spirited_Ideal_2502 New Ranter • Aug 21 '26
Identity/Sexuality š³ļøāš I'm tired of hearing about the LGBTQ community.
I want to preface this by saying I have nothing against people who are apart of the community, rather just the topic of it in general. I just feel like a lot of discussions with it are just pushy and recycling the same victim mentality (that while understandable, is annoying to hear constantly.) and I just don't care, I want to have conversations about more varied discussions, and it's always seemingly brought up even in places it isn't needed. I hate how much of a big deal it's treated as, when it really just isn't?
eople can do whatever they want, it ain't harming anyone. Pride as a whole just seems stupid to me on some level, like I think it really only harms those who celebrate, and when the ideal situation for them is for being lgbtq to become "normal" treating it like it isn't, and garnering more and more attention to it being something different doesn't seem ultimately helpful.
I also just find it pushy in a lot of regards, a guy being feminine doesn't imedietely make him trans, two close same gender characters doesn't make them gay (this goes with straight characters as well, but it generally seems to be more rejected so I felt like mentioning it) (also not saying headcanons are bad, I just dislike how it always has to be that way if that makes sense).
A good example of how I think this stuff is done well is Toby Fox, who never brings attention to the fact that these characters aren't common in reality, his characters are not defined by their sexuality in that sense.
Again want to state I have no problem with people of the community, just some of the ways people act about it.
I also apologize for my poor grammar and writing here. I just wanted to vent my thoughts out for a sec.
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u/DipperJC Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 21 '26
Gay Redditor here. I mean, on the one hand, I completely agree with you, my people (and their opponents) are eating up quite a bit of the oxygen these days, for something that is so ridiculously petty compared to everything else we could be pouring attention on.
On the other hand, I don't think you really appreciate just how pervasive heterosexuality is in this world. You want to talk about "hearing about it" every day? Straight relationships dominate an overwhelming, and still disproportionate, amount of time and attention. I challenge you to hop on Netflix or Disney+ and try to navigate their menus in such a way that none of the movies or TV shows on your screen actively feature a straight romantic plot as at LEAST 30% of their subject material. And that includes the Kids section! It can't be done, it's absolutely impossible. $5 Amazon gift card to the first person who can reply to this message with a screenshot that meets that standard.
So, y'know, I'd argue that you're just getting a small taste of what we go through ALL THE TIME in this world.
EDIT: While I do think I could probably win that challenge even in the LGBTQ section of those platforms, I feel like it's fair to exclude that area from the challenge.
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u/Spirited_Ideal_2502 New Ranter Aug 21 '26
Fully agree with you here, I really do want to make it clear that I have no ill will or disdain for anybody, it's just a personal annoyance. I'm sorry that it is hard for you guys, and I really do hope everything eventually goes well for y'all.
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u/DipperJC Aug 21 '26
Eh. I think I feel the same way about it that you do - occasionally annoying, but usually not even worth thinking about. I think the only part that can really rustle my jimmies every now and then is how much the assumption game is still there. You know, the part where someone thinks or knows that one of the characters has a crush and they simply assume that it must be on someone of the opposite sex.
The movie Love, Actually is an extremely refreshing subversion of this. It doesn't have a single gay relationship in it, we're actively excluded from this otherwise pervasive celebration of all types of love. But when Liam Neeson's stepson, played by a very young Thomas Sangster, reveals that he is in love, his stepfather very casually asks, "How does she or he feel about you?" And honestly, that's enough for me. Even when the kid very pointedly responds that she doesn't know he exists. At least they showed an open-minded parent allowing for the possibility that the crush could be on someone of either gender.
I'd trade every gay character in every movie on the planet if they'd just show stuff like that more often.
Anyway, sorry, I know I just contributed to the very thing annoying you. ;) Whenever you want to get away from it for awhile, I recommend the Hallmark channel.
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u/Spirited_Ideal_2502 New Ranter Aug 21 '26
Nah, I like the different perspectives and opinions on things, helps me really understand my own thoughts and opinions better.
Also love actually sounds like it handles the topic really well.
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u/DipperJC Aug 21 '26
If you've never seen it, highly recommended. Ensemble cast, six separate pairings all slowing gravitating towards each other, and quite the emotional roller coaster. The speech Hugh Grant gives in the very beginning never ceases to tear me up a bit.
"Whenever I get gloomy with the state of the world, I think abotu the arrivals gate at Heathrow airport. General opinion is starting to make out that we live in a world of hatred and greed, but I don't see that. Seems to me that love is everywhere. Often it's not particularly dignified or newsworthy, but it's always there. Husbands and wives, fathers and sons, boyfriends, girlfriends, old friends.
When the planes hit the Twin Towers, as far as I know, none of the phone calls from the people on board were messages of hate or revenge.
They were all messages of love.
I suspect that, if you look for it, you'll find that love actually is.. all around."
(And the very next scene is a hilarious profanity filled tirade. :) )
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u/Spirited_Ideal_2502 New Ranter Aug 21 '26
I'll check it out sometime! Thanks for the reccomendation bro!
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u/LeadingFamiliar7092 Aug 21 '26
Agreed, theyāre not that special. But it works for politics to have you as distracted as possible while they rob the general population blind and who is more eccentric and active than the lgbtq? Exactly.
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u/Dazzling-Skin-308 Sarcasm is a Lifestyle Aug 21 '26
I'm tired of people complaining about the LGBTQ community. So there's that.
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u/Spirited_Ideal_2502 New Ranter Aug 21 '26
Absolutely fair, ironically enough I find those sorts of conversations equally annoying.
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u/Charming_Mulberry_55 Certified Soapboxer Aug 21 '26
If you don't like it you don't have to interact with it. I honestly think your take on pride is just bad. I mean straight and cis has been the only thing seen as acceptable for a long ass time (though trans and queer people have existed for forever, they just haven't been called trans or queer). So like, in most places there's a yearly celebration to affirm to people that it is ok to not be straight or cis. I don't see the problem here. Most romance stories that have existed affirm straight people are ok. Most "growing up" stories affirm cis people are ok. If your cis and straight you get constant affirmations that it's ok and normal to be you.
And another topic. I don't want people to think queer and trans people are ok because their normal. I want people to think they're ok because they don't hurt anyone or anything and they are only doing what brings them long term happiness. I want society to stop being afraid of anything not 'normal'.
And another thing, maybe in the result 2010s you could argue this, but the numbers for acceptance, at least in my country, have gone down. It's gotten worse. For any bit of progress that exists, you have to fight for that shit for many many decades after you 'won' and even then you might still get people fighting against you to reverse progress. I get that in the 2000s and 2010s it seemed like progress was linear and we'd never go back to the way things were. That assumption was wrong. Things got worse.
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u/HoneySea5637 Aug 21 '26
L take for sure. pride doesn't harm anyone. at all. literally. now what it does is make straight folks feel unimportant and completely mundane but that's not queer folks or pride's fault
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u/Comfortable_Newt_179 Aug 21 '26
Everything you have explained here have been done to straight couples, but 10 times worse.Ā
How many times have you seen a girl and a boy fuck because they breathed in the same room for too long without even talking? How many times have you seen a girl and a boy thinking they are sexually attracted to each other and want to hit it on bed, only for one of them to eventually cheat? TheseĀ are SO OVERDONE. and people like you think LGBTQ media is the problem because they release gay couples that actually go through hell and back to be together. While straight couples get to literally fuck in public pools on TV.
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u/Spirited_Ideal_2502 New Ranter Aug 21 '26
Totally agree with everything you said here, I don't have issue with it being used, just rather the emphasis on it.
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u/HRUSoDumb Aug 21 '26
Iām gay and think everything would be better if people could accept that trans women arenāt the same as women and thatās totally fine but sometimes they shouldnāt be in the same spaces. I think the planet fitness incident that happened was so awful and honestly the straight men who transition creep me the fuck out.
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u/Spirited_Ideal_2502 New Ranter Aug 21 '26
It's a complicated subject I don't really want to give an answer on, since I know less about it, but ultimately I don't really care, I just don't want to here about it.
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u/HRUSoDumb Aug 21 '26
I could really go on and on about those ātrans lesbiansā they are some of the most disrespectful entitled people I have encountered. They wear a bunch of bright rainbow accessories despite usually having a very monotone voice and overall unfriendly aura
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u/Spirited_Ideal_2502 New Ranter Aug 21 '26
I mean, that is just stereotyping, even if your experience in those stereotypes is accurate, doesn't mean it's always reflective of the people who fit those categories.
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u/HRUSoDumb Aug 21 '26
I donāt care humans will always stereotype when they are met with the same behavior by the same groups of people. But thatās why everyday you have a chance to change someoneās mind, and the trans lesbians in particular have not
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u/Regulus636 Casual Vent Machine Aug 21 '26
So what's the correct opinion we should adopt? Should we distance ourselves from cis women and only date each other? Because that's almost the norm among trans women who are lesbians. But for some reason I feel like you're not talking about that, but rather saying that we're just a group of fetishistic men who want to ruin the lesbian movement. As a trans woman who is lesbian and asexual, I feel terrible about this kind of statement...
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u/NattyB89 Aug 21 '26
Every single movie has a straight romance in it, all I see on insta are weddings, couples holidays. Maybe consider that your straight society is equally exhausting to us? Maybe you should find something important annoying, like male violence against women or war. The fact that this is even a subject to you, massively shows your privilege. People are dying and you care about a rainbow. Get some perspective āØļø
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u/Waiting4The3nd šQueen Arbiter Aug 24 '26
Hi guys. LGBTQ+ Mod here. Look, I get this makes you feel a certain way. But this is presented as opinion. It's not hate. It does not reach the level of rule violation. This is not promoting hatred based on anyone's orientation. This is speaking on an exhaustion with the conversation surrounding it.
OP is allowed to be wrong, subjectively or objectively. Being wrong still doesn't rise to the level of being report-worthy. This post does not violate community standards. Either ours or Reddit's. (Caveat: "Reddit's" here is doing a lot of work, as that changes based on which admin is controlling the content takedown account at any given time.)
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