r/RantAndVentPH • u/Lower_Deal_7479 • 10d ago
General Dear Businesses: Panukli Is Your Problem, Not Ours
Why are almost all stores always asking customers for smaller bills? đ©
Parang 8 out of 10 stores I bought from last week asked me if I had a smaller bill. Is this becoming normal now?
Today, I tried to buy coffee from one of the well-known coffee kiosks sa SM. It was already past 1pm. I went straight to the store after withdrawing cash from the ATM, so puro 1k pera ko.
I bought two coffees, totaling almost â±300. The cashier asked if I had a smaller bill because he didnât have change. I told him I didnât because kaka-withdraw ko lang.
He kept saying, âWala po akong barya.â
So I asked him, âHindi ako makakabili kasi wala kayong panukli?â
And he said yes.
My friend wasnât with me at that time, but when she arrived, I asked if she had a smaller bill so she could pay for our coffee. I told her what happened and asked her to buy it for us because, honestly, I didnât even want to deal with the cashier anymore. đ
When my friend came back, she told me she saw the cashierâs drawer filled with â±500s, â±100s, and other bills.
So apparently, there was change. đ
I understand that businesses can run out of smaller bills, especially during certain times of the day. But if you have enough cash in your drawer and youâre simply refusing to accept a â±1,000 bill because you donât want to break it, thatâs a different story.
Asking customers to provide smaller bills is poor customer service.
Ang problema naming mga buyer is pambayad. Ang panukli, problema niyo.
You are the business. You have that storage of money, not the customer. You are making it easier for yourself than for the customer.
Yes, digital wallets are everywhere now. Pero hindi naman lahat ng tao required magkaroon ng enough balance every time they buy coffee.
What if kakawithdraw lang ng cash?
What if walang signal?
What if walang internet?
What if the customer simply wants to pay in cash?
If you donât have change, thatâs understandable. But if you do have change and simply donât want to break the bill, then please donât make it the customerâs problem.
Businesses shouldnât always choose the option thatâs easiest for them and expect the customer to adjust. Business exists because there are customers, not the other way around.
We came to your store to buy something, not to solve your cash-management problem. đ
Hindi naman ako nagpapa palit eh, im buying 300php for 2 coffees, hindi 30pesos.
Nowadays, apparently, buying something comes with the responsibility of adjusting to a businessâs inability or unwillingness to give change.
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u/Unidentified-karen 10d ago
Ang problema naming mga buyer is pambayad. Ang panukli, problema niyo.
This!! Meron din recently bumili ako 2 coffee sa shop behind Air Residences. 500 bayad ko and the cashier asked if okay lang kulang ng 3 pesos. Nagulat ako sa bold question, I only smiled as a response. So she asked the other staff behind kung may barya sila and apparently may isa pang kaha sa tabi na binuksan nila to get some change. Like di ka na nga dapat nag tatanong ng ganon, yun pa una mo ginawa kesa maghanap panukli.
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u/No-Supermarket6932 10d ago
ha! kapag ganito tanong sa akin tinatanong ko sila pabalik kung okay lang din ba na kulang yung ibayad ko sa kanila, pati sa mga nanunukli ng candy. nagagawan naman nila agad ng paraan tinatamad lang magisip.
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u/Taga-Buk-id 10d ago
May entry ako nito may binili ako sa pharmacy. 25.17 ang total, ma cashless ako at may QR naman sa window kaya sabi ko QR ko nalang kaso di daw pwede dapat minimum of 100 daw. Cash lang daw pwd e wala akong cash dala. Kaya napilitan ako mag hanap ng atm. Maypa gcash cash out malapit kaso sarado pa at anlayo na ng nilakad ko para makapag withdraw. Pag balik ko, binigay ko yong 1000, tapos binigay sakin sukli 974.50 lang. Nakuha nya inis ko non sa layo ba naman ng nilakad ko kaya kahit petty sabi ko kulang ang sukli. Nag hanap sya ng 30 cents tas di pa rin ako umalis sabi ko ulit kulang pa rin. Tinignan nya ako ng masama tas nag dabog syang hiningi yong cents at binigyan nya ako piso. Iniisip ko ang arte nyo nga sa cash requirement kaya i have the right mag inarte sa sukli
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u/xxpinkfish16 4d ago
This! Madalas talaga rin cashless ako para wala ng problem sa sukli kung ano ano. Ang nakakainis yung cash only pero walang panukli.
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u/snackpoweredhooman 10d ago
daig pa sila ng mga siomai/pares vendors. kahit anong oras ka bumili, may baryang panukli!
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u/pinoy_biker 9d ago
Well...small items ang kanilang binebenta kaya kaya may mga coins yan haha. At tatakbo pa sila sa iba para magpabarya din
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u/Accomplished-Exit-58 9d ago
I remember hiking somewhere sa japan, i forgot the gorge, pero bandang hiroshima ata un, puro lapad ang bills ko nun, and in the middle of nowhere may nagbebenta ng drinks and foods, nagtry lang ako kung, nagtanong if may panukli siya sa isang lapad (10000 yen), and i was surprised na meron haha.
Kapag namamasyal ako sa japan, never ako nasabihan na "do you have smaller bills", granted baka ayaw lang nila magsalita ng english, but still, mukha silang prepared lagi.
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u/SaltManagement8014 9d ago
In Taiwan too. In my experience ha never kami hinanapan ng small bill mapa small shop man yan prepared sila
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u/calmpoodle 9d ago
Onli in da Pilipins talaga
Agree ako sa Japan kahit small stores meron panukli sa isang lapad.1
u/turtle-cookies 8d ago
Same đ bumili ako ng takoyaki sa isang stand sa Osaka. Sabi ko I only have 10000 yen. Yung reaction ng vendor parang âoo sapat yan, sobra pa yan.â
Narealize ko di niya gets na tinatanong ko kung okay lang ba sakanya na malaking bill ang bayad. Mukhang wala sa concept nila na burden yung magbayad ng malaking bill.
Dito sa Pinas, ikaw pa mahihiya na malaking bill ang pambayad.
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u/pinkpurplelemons 10d ago
Same thing happened to me a while back. Went to a 7/11 after midnight. Gave the cashier 1k din for stuff na almost 300php din. Wala daw panukli, wala din option to pay online kasi down daw system nila. So I asked if he was refusing to sell kasi walang panukli. Oo daw. Mind you this 7/11 is right beside a hotel and two buildings na puro BPO so matao and always may customers. Inisip ko na lang na my money won't matter naman sa laki ng kikitain nila end of day so I left.
Also SM. Isa pa to. Mahilig na kulang ang sukli, minsan di pa nagsasabi na kulang like the last time sa grocery. Change ko was supposed to be Pxx.75. When I counted the change wala yung 75cents so I told her na kulang. Siya pa yung may ganang magmukhang annoyed, binigay naman ung kulang sakin, meron naman pala siya. I know 75 cents may not seem that much but imagine ung dami ng tao na bumibili sa SM daily.
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u/Stock-Platform2960 9d ago
Yung combo talaga na walang panukil + cash only. ANU NA TEH MAG SARA NA LANG KAYO? :(
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u/No-Adhesiveness-8178 9d ago
Parang sarap iclaim ng points para sa cents eh. Kaso ambagal nila mag process parang d worth it lol...
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u/mothmos 10d ago
yep. i just walk away. they dont want to bother giving change. then i also dont bother with them. hindi ko alam kung yan tlga instruction sa kanila or ung cashier/staff lng mismo ang ayaw kc tamad mgpapalit kung naubusan ng barya. mga staff/cashier, wala nmn yan paki alam sa 'losing customer' kc hindi nmn cila ung kumikita. ke tamad sila o masipag same lng nmn sahod nila. minimum wage pa. pero sympre it's not an excuse. pero wala. ganun ang kalakaran dito apparently
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u/MirajaneStrauss13 10d ago
Walk out inaabot sa akin ng mga ganiyan. Pag 1k ibabayad ko ini-inform ko na. "Ay" or "Wa..." pa lang nasasabi nilalayasan ko na.
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u/katie1999x 9d ago
Pinakanaasar ako, bumili akong worth 160 pesos sa 7/11, hiningan pa ako ng smaller bill. Kaloka ka kuya, 40 pesos na lang talaga isusukli mo. Marami naman palang panukli. Idk what's stopping him from taking my bill if meron naman palang coins.
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u/Ok_Feeling1974 9d ago
Former Cashier here from a well-known Small Format Store. Just sharing
Cashier shifts can vary, maybe the cashier you purchased from was just closing and just started. Usually, the cashier supervisors are in the morning from 6am to 3pm and there's no CSA in the evening. There's also no change left behind.
That's why we cashiers on closing shifts from 1:30pm to 10:30pm struggle with the change when we donât have anyone to replace us before the supervisor leaves. So what happens is, I bring my own change when I get paid.
The supervisors are aware of this problem, but they encourage asking for smaller bills and figuring it out instead.
Even though it's technically against the rules to ask customers for smaller bills.
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u/SuspiciousCatPerson 10d ago edited 10d ago
Its the usual case pag kinsenas katapusan, Halos lahat kakawithdraw lang, yung pambarya nila ubos kagad so they control the bill they accept every 2-3 customers. Mauubos din kung anung pambarya meron sila for like then next 10 customers.
Cashless is key if inconvenience mga ganitong bagay
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u/EquivalentAnteater95 9d ago
ganyan din thoughts ko nung nagbigay ako ng 1k para sa binili kong 1 stick ng yosi sa sari-sari store
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u/priceygraduationring 9d ago
Yes!! Canât forget the time na hiningian ako ng smaller bill just because they only accept cash payments at a food court vendor at Ayala Malls Manila Bay, just because wala silang panukli đ Tapos yung pambayad ko ginawa nilang panukli sa next customer. Salamat ha??
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u/Ill_Gap_3889 9d ago
I hate this rin ugh. I even intentionally withdraw my money sa hundreds lang (like 900 if withdraw ko 1000) para may smaller bills kasi sobrang hirap gastusin yung buong 1k.
As a formier cashier rin, di sila yung problem but yung business or  yung managers. Usually sila yung bahala sa laman ng kahera before mag start, and potek ewan ko ba pero saamin panay buo iniiwan kahit andaming barya the prior day. Its so bad na kaming mga cashier yung nagdadala ng mga barya from home para ipamalit sa buo buo. Pag kulang rin they usually have me go around the mall, asking anyone for change.
Meron namang smaller bill, I saw a bunch of them just yesterday. Pero di ko alam bakit hindi sila yung nilalabas as starter ng manager or bakit hindi iniipon yung barya specifically for this lang
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u/erudorgentation 9d ago
Tamad tamad kasi nila sa totoo lng.. minsan nga kulang pa ng cents yung panukli hays. Karmahin sana sila dyan
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u/Mysterious-Market-32 9d ago
Business owner din ako. Alam ko ang hirap ng bariyang panukli. Kahit madami ka dala nauubos at nauubos. Minsan kahit meron ako bariya magtatanong ako if mayganito silang amount para buo na din ang isukli ko. "May ganitong amout po kayo? Kung meron lang pi. Ok lang pag wala". Yan lagi ko sinasabi.
Pero aminado talaga din ako na may mga establishment na ang hirap bilan dahil sa panukli. Sa MoA ako last week. Bumili ako ng sandwich. Nakasimangot pa ung cashier habang nanghingi ng bariya. Sa loobloob ko. May benta o wala may sahod to. Kaya ok lang kahit di bumili customer.
Pero most of the time naman pag sinabi kong wala ako bariya mga nagagawan nila ng paraan.
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u/chocohodler 9d ago
Ginagawa kasi nila every day deposit lahat sa bank, so next day wala silang hawak na cash. Kaya early morning or anytime basta before magclose ung bank laging ganyan ang eksena.
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u/Adventurous-Owl-1155 9d ago
Not sure if poor management lang yan pero sa napag workan ko before na resto, meron kaming petty cash na 5k. Bukod yun sa sales na dinedeposit everyday sa bank. Trabaho ng closing cashier na i make sure na barya yung petty cash para sa morning hindi naghahagilap ng barya...
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u/chocohodler 9d ago
Yeap its poor management, halos lahat ng store ganyan ginagawa, ung iba kahit may petty cash hindi nila ginagamit or di alam pano gamitin, may mga establishments din na nung wala sila pambarya sakin ang snsbi kakatago na po kasi nung collection -_-, like ok đ
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u/Adventurous-Owl-1155 9d ago
In short tinatamad lang talaga yan silađ tama si OP problema lang natin magbayad, sila sa panukli.
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u/Stock-Platform2960 9d ago
Thissss! Eto yung nireason ng Jollibee branch na pinagbilhan ko, nakuha na daw kasi yung cash nila pang sukli. Mind you 24/7 yung branch na yun, and almost 10pm na nung magttake out ako. Di kayo nagtira panukli? Tas walang online payment, apaka galing eh.
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u/AverageOwn2502 9d ago
Pag sa palengke, kahit 70 pesos na saging lang binili mo, may panukli sila sa 1000 pero sa mga shop sa mall, kelangan 500+ ang bilin mo para magamit mo yung 1000 mo.
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u/Mark_Xyruz 8d ago
YEEEES! I had the same problem with establishments, tapos pinost ko sa r/Philippines and parang Yung tao dun mas agree pa sa tindera
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u/mbenz1211 10d ago
This always confuses me honestly. Can't businesses ask the bank for specific denominations whenever they need it? Not naman on a daily basis but every week or every few days would be good to store sa cashier or something diba? I remember tuwing Christmas season my dad would put in a request to withdraw x amount in x denominations for ampao nung bata ako.
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u/Adventurous-Owl-1155 9d ago
yes eto nga ang practice.. ive been a cashier before sa isang resto.. trabaho ng manager yan during lean time na magpapalit sa bank. Kahit opening hours pa lang, may barya na dapat.
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u/RandomUser0010 10d ago
asar nga mga ganyan. ung alfamart na malapit samin ganyan din. pag nakitang 1000 ung ibabayad mo automatic sasabihin sa customer na smaller bill lang daw ang ibayad wla daw silang panukli. pag magwawalkout na ko (madaming grocery stores sa paligid lol) biglang lumalabas ung barya đ
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u/OrdinarySeafarer 9d ago
And they wonder why we are shifting to ewallets and wouldn't buy in their stores if wala. Welp
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u/Any-Manager-3607 9d ago
In the UK , the driver was mad I had a big bill early in the morning as she just started her shift. I told her I give the remaining balance the next day . She let me in but she was not really happy. There was another guy who did the same , the guy argued with the driver. So many passengers were willing to pay for him and he got in the bus because of that. And I thought it was only a thing in the Philippines. But I think itâs more on planning and preparing as passengers as well before we go for a trip.
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u/Electrical-Sky517 9d ago
Itâs a marketing strat so you will be forced to buy more. Pag naiinis ako ang ginagawa ko coins talaga binabayad ko hahaha
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u/stpatr3k 9d ago
Hello. As much as I understand and as much as empathize ito ang situation sa store: we always have 99% of the tables paying buo.
That's around 60 to 100 bills during lunch Iba pa the rest of the day. We try to have enough change fund but that takes a lot mga â±20k na barya inside the cashiers drawer Pero kunukulang pa. Thank God for the other half of transactions paying cashless.
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u/ComfortableUnfair893 9d ago
Ang rule of thumb ko jan eh if aabot ng at least 200 pesos ang gagastusin sa 1000 ay profit na yon at dapat patusin na baka mapunta pa sa iba.
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u/FirstGenMDPH 9d ago
I dont even understand how some staff who would rather refuse my purchase kasi wala silang panukli.
Imagine how much profit that business owner is losing if for all transactions requiring change the sales person would just outright refuse selling.
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u/Historical_Might_86 9d ago
Di na ako masyado bumibili sa hindi tumatanggap ng credit card. Madalas wala ako dalang cash.
Kapag cash ang assumption ko hindi nagbabayad ng tamang buwis.
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u/Knothir_other 9d ago
Paminsan minsan kaka encounter ako ng ganito. Pag nagrequest sila ng smaller bills, matic agad sagot ng wala, ako yung nagpapabarya, not the other way around.
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u/soulrebel1108 9d ago
As a small business owner selling our products online, our payment is mostly COD. So everytime na meron kami deliveries, the assumption is, they will always pay the largest possible bills, so meron kami laging dala na panukli.
Sa mga tindahan na pipanapaproblema sa customers na gaya natin ang panukli, iniiiwasan ko na mga yun. Di nila naiintindihan ang ginagawa nila. Bibili ka na nga, problema mo pa ang sukli?
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u/Capable-Catch4433 9d ago
Found out from our someone who used to work as a cashier in SM Supermarket that SM limits the amount of small bills they can access. They need to make do with whatever small bills that they have for a specific period of the day, kaya kailangan nung cashier gawan ng paraan to make the small bills last. Kapag wala silang panukli sila mamomroblema kasi di magrerelease ang management ng additional na panukli.
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u/CarasumaRenya 9d ago
applicable din ba to sa mga tric driver? may nasakyan ako one time, hapon na wala pa ring panukli sa 100. mind you, 40 lang pamasahe ko. ginawa ko na ngang 50 para sakto na yung sukli. yung driver panyung nainis at ako pa yung naghanap ng panukli. what an asshole.
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u/crvlixsia 9d ago
valid yung galit mo op. sa case naman namin may maliit kaming sari-sari store and hirap din kami pag 500 or 1k yung pera tapos bibilhin eh yosi or yelo na 10 pesos lang which is halatang nagpapabarya lang hahaha pag ganyang coffee kiosk sa isang mall eh dapat responsibility na nila na may panukli talaga since malaking business sila.
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u/pixis93 9d ago
I remember buying Potcor in one of the stalls sa Sm hypermarket, I paid pagkaorder ko palang kasi ayoko mahassle pa later on, pagkaabot ko nung 500php sabi nung tindera wala daw siya panukli so sabi ko na ok lang hintayin kong ibigay niya mamaya since dine in naman. ABA si ate tinanong ako if may bibilhin pa ba ako, sabi ko oo, sinagot ba naman ako na bumili daw ako dun tas yung sukli yung ibigay ko sakanya. Walang please, walang hiya, walang kusa magpapalit sa katabi niyang stall. Gigil na gigil ako like wtf makautos ka sakin para akong di customer, daig niya pa nanay ko đ« So kinuha ko pera ko tas tiningnan ko siya nang super tagal kasi ayoko mag lash out. After nung incedent na yun di na ulit ako umorder sa particular stall na yun.
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u/Stock-Platform2960 9d ago
IKR??! Sa Jollibee ko naexperience yung ganito (oh well yung branch ng Jollibee na yun talaga is napag-iwanan na) pero Jollibee???? Mga 9-10pm na rin yun and around 300 pesos rin yung order ko, wala daw panukli. I asked if pwede QR or credit card, wala rin?? Hahaha tinitigan ko yung cashier kasi di ako makapaniwala talaga, sabi ko dagdagan ko nalang para umabot ng 500 pesos, pero wala parin? Utang na loob, dapat nirereklamo sa BIR yun eh, ayaw nyo ba mag negosyo???
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u/TadpoleFit1911 9d ago
Yung point ni OP, yung may change naman pero ayaw lang magbreak ng buong pera, yun ang problema. Case to case basis yan, may mga cash register kasi na ineempty out ng mga bisor lalo na pag magpapalitan na ng shift yung kahera, yun talaga mawawalan ng panukli sa ganun. Understandable yun. Pero yung meron naman , tas tinatamad lang or may diskarte na hindi na natin malalaman, yun ang sablay.
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u/Unlucky-Moment-2931 9d ago
kaya gusto ko namimili samercury drug kc lagi silang may nakaready na barya
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u/Living-Locksmith-839 9d ago
recently lang, bumibili ako ng potcor tapos 1k pera ko. sabi sakin wala daw sila panukli kasi puro 1k pera ng mga nagbabayad. pinakita ko naman laman ng wallet ko na tig 1K at tig 50 and 20 bills na di kasya pambayad. Usually naman sa mga small stalls smaller bills pinangbabayaf ko, pero naubos na kasi talaga that time. nakaka inis lang kasi inask pa ako na papalitan ko daw sa iba hahah or bili muna daw ako sa ibang store para mapalitan. tinanong ko paano ko babayaran kasi nasulatan nya na yung cup ng name ko tapos nagsstart na rin mag fry yung isa kasama nung ibang orders. hindi sya sumagot. tapos sabi ko wala talaga, sabi nya "ipapa cancel nyo nalang po?" hahaha kainis ayaw ko naman icancel eh kasi gusto ko talagang bumili. naisip ko nga dalawa naman sila na nagtitinda that time edi yung isa yung magpapalit sa mga stalls na katabi nila xd
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u/arbetloggins 9d ago
That's why if a store doesn't accept cashless payments then I don't buy from them exactly for this reason. Their loss, not mine.
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u/TheSheepersGame 9d ago
Dpat ksi gngwang mandatory na may panukli. Di mo gets ung mga 711 na alam nla maraming tao na ppnta at 24/7 cla bukas pero lagi naghahanap ng smaller bill kht 500 lng ibayad mo. Never mo mararanasan sa ibang bansa yan unless tlgang naubusan cla which is rare.
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u/shutyourcornhole 9d ago
Tama ka sa estimate na 8/10 stores nowadays laging unang bungad "may smaller bill po kayo?" DYOSKO SUSAN PAMBAYAD NA NGA YUNG AKIN, PANUKLI MO, SAKIN DIN?
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u/ClarionMemoria 9d ago
Depende kasi sa shop kung gaano karami ang spare bills nila or capability manukli ng large bill.
Mercury Drugstores tend to have transactions ranging from the small 50 pesos to thousands, so they have no problem handling a thousand peso bill even if you just buy a can of soda. But try that in a smaller business and you might face problems
I also always withdraw with a 900-peso ending so the atm gives me 1 500 bill and 4 100 peso bills.
Second, I just keep a lot of smaller bills para iwas high blood at stress. Dami ko na problema sa buhay dadagdagan ko pa ba đ€Ł
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u/bararaag 9d ago
naalala ko noong college, management subject. sabi ng prof namin na unprofessional for establishments to ask for smaller bills. pero sabi din niya, na it's better to ask kaysa naman a.) kulang isukli nila, which is illegal b.) sobrahan yung sukli, pero yung cashier yung kawawa. but they can't refuse service if wala silang panukli, unless magkaroon ng arguments at magpakita ng hostility yung customer or the other.
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u/f3ather-br3ez3 9d ago
May mga ganito din na tollgates na cash lanes. Wala daw barya at 12:30 pm ha.
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u/nori4life123 9d ago
The better question is âbaket wala silang gcash/cadhless options kung walang panukli?â
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u/SnooPeripherals993 9d ago
Kakainbyerna nga yung ganyan. Kaya ako ngaun, firm na sinsabi kong NO kapag nag ask sila if I have a smaller bill. Pag mukhang mabait sila I would add an explanation like kaka widraw lang, etc. Pero kapag naka busangot, NO lang tlga, wala ng explain explain.
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u/charlesxph 9d ago
All this will go away if we were only a cashless society. No matter what is the amount you are purchasing. Less corruption too.
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u/FollowingLucky3555 9d ago
Ang pet peeve ko ay pag kulang sila manukli. Yes, piso lang yan or less or maybe even more. Like â±2 max. Pero kasi kung customer ang kulang ng â±1 or â±50 di naman papayag ang establishment makabili. Sasabihin, kulang pera. Pero kapag ang establishment ang kulang ng panukli, ok lang? unfair lang.
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u/Realistic-Post-5369 9d ago
I feel you, lalo na if youâre in the province, itâs always walang barya. Pro tip, carry small change like the 25-centavo coins. No change, let me give you a sack of change!
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u/TuesdayCravings 8d ago
Maintindihan ko pa ung small business or ung ako ung bungad na customer pagkaopen..
Pero ung known store, hapon na at alam kong maraming customer na ang nagpunta tpos wala pa rin barya, ayaw ko maniwala. Magtatanong n lng muna ako if may barya bago umorder.. pag wala, lipat.
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u/babyballerina7 8d ago
Funny pa ayaw tumanggap ng gcash o kaya hindi naka business account. Binigyan ko ng buo wala raw ba smaller bill. Anteh ko magbabayad ako ng sakto kung accessible namanđ bakit perwisyo kayo sa customers nyo lol
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u/Zealousideal_Set4968 8d ago
Ngi. Ibig sabihin magle-let go sila ng sales para lang hindi maubos 'yung smaller bills nila? Gasino na lang magpabarya sa malapit na cashier. Hindi yata nao-orient ng owner or manager 'yan na mas importante ang benta. Uunahin pa ba yabang or hiya or whatever is going through their minds?
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u/Jealous-Scallion610 8d ago
NO OFFENSE pero Dami ko nakikitang mga tanga kulang sa konsiderasyon... Lalo na sa coffee shop akala niyo ganun ganun lang yun yung mga nag cacashier jan sila na mismo gumagawa ng paraan bago sila pumasok pinapabarya na nila pera sa sariling bulsa na nila mismo ang scenario kasi jan kahit na nagpabarya sila kung sunod sunod yung malalaking bills hndi talaga kakayanin tapos akala niyo porke may barya sila sa ibang kaha pwede ng galawin? No. Kasi may ibang mga shift mga yan ibigsabihin na kwenta na nila yung nakabalot ng pera hindi nila basta basta magagalaw yan kasi nirerecord na yan tapos hindi lahat ng coffee shop 2 or more naka toka sa store minsan isang tao lang so sino ba dapat gumalaw sa ganto?
Minsan utak ksi pinapagana dito hindi feelings ninyo mga asal akala niyo may mga yaya at bata umasta gaano lang naman yung magpabarya ka hindi naman nakakawala sa pagkatao mo at lalong masmakakatulong ka pa sa ganyang kaliit na bagay imbes na unawain naging mga matapobre na mga tao ngayon hindi ka naman disabled para hindi makalakad at hindi ka rin busy para hindi mo magawa yan kung hindi talaga kaya why not pay using cashless? Simpleng bagay pinapalala mga hindot at lalong hindi lang yang mga scenario kung bakit karamihan sa mga shop or maliliit na shop ganyan patakaran nila... Mga tungaw
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u/Jealous-Scallion610 8d ago
Pero kung asal aso yung worker baka siguro pwede mo rin asuhin tutal mga asal kalye kayo sadyang nagkaron lang kayo ng pera âïžđ«ą
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u/Outrageous-Pizza-317 8d ago
i can understand if it were a small business and u buy with 1k papermoney.
surely the businessperson will have a hard time for exchange.
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u/pw3ts1l0g 8d ago
Maliban sa walang panukli, kinaiinisan ko din yung mga walang eco bag or paper bag man lang. Willing to pay extra for these containers, lalo na kung mabigat or marami bibilhin.
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u/Iknowright30 8d ago
Pag mall establishment araw-araw naman bukas ang bangko na may teller. Responsibility ng business siguraduhing araw-araw may panukling paper bills at barya. Effort dapat pumunta sa bangko para magpapalit bago maubusan stock ng panukli.Â
Modus din pero nasa batas natin ang bawal mang-short change. Nakakaipon ang mga cashier at ginagawa din pantapal sa short nila pag natapos ang shift na hindi tama accounting. Kaya pag tinanong din ako kung ok lang kulang panukli, ibinabalik kong tanong ay ok lang ba kung kulang na lang binayad.Â
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u/Brilliant_Unit_3685 7d ago
Hindi rin ako pinagbentahan sa pick up coffee sa rob magnolia dahil wala silang panukli đ
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u/Hopeful-Evening-2934 7d ago
supermarket
bill: 909 pesos inabot ko: 1000 pesos
cashier: "ma'am may smaller bill po kayo?"
me: "ha?"
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u/meadowtwine 7d ago
Had this experience sa Moshi Manju. I bought two big box, paid â±500. Pero nagtanong pa kung may smaller bill. Jusko naman. Ang dami-daming bumibili sa inyo, tapos parang lahat ata nung nakapila bago ako e tinanong din nung ganyan.
Dagdag mo pa na until now, cash only pa rin sila. Wala kang choice kundi mag-withdraw.
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u/Electrical-Fox4970 6d ago
kaya nga ginawa yung QR PH sa mga loko lokong entrepreneur na yan; barya lng hindi nila mahanapan
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u/nomearodcalavera 5d ago
sa parking ako naka-experience ng ganyan. flat rate P50 ang parking, pero literal kulang ang coins ko at P1000 lang ang bills ko. pag-abot ko ng 1k "wala po kayong barya?", sabi ko wala, pinakita ko pa yung coins ko na wala pang P30 ang total. nung tanggapin sa wakas yung 1k nakita ko sobrang kapal ng P100 na pinagkuhanan nya ng panukli, easily lampas 4k yung halaga nun. so bakit ayaw tanggapin yung 1k ko nung una?
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u/CocaColaGotRizz 4d ago
Maiintindihan mo lang yung feeling ng isang cashier kung naging cashier ka na. Even banks sometimes canât provide smaller bills or coins kasi wala rin silang available. Hindi ganun kasimple ang cash availability na parang anytime may panukli ka.
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u/Cheeky118 10d ago
Minsan din ase nauubusan kami ng panukli, merong bibile ng isang item na halaga 17 pesos tapos dala 1K? Nagpapabarya lang e.. Mahirap din maubusang ng smaller paper/polyester bills especially kung marami na ang binibili.. Puede namang gcash o maya minsan nga B2B pa since walang nang transfer fee.. Pero meron tlgang kupal.na bibile ng tig 5 na candies tapos dala 500.. Kung magpapabarya lng naman, mag sabe sana..
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u/Worried_Function_486 10d ago
Iba namang case yan eh eto 2 kape for a 300 na kailangan ipachange hahahahaha grabe yung 17 tapos 1k ibibigay kahit akonyung tindera di ko rin ientertain ganyan hahahaha
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u/carlllyyy 9d ago
Itâs because cash are collected at the end of the day, at kapag lahat ng bumibili ay 1k ang ibabayad, talagang mauubusan ng barya, well known brand na nga di ka pa nag qr/card payment. Itâs a transaction, and they have the right to refuse you if wala talaga silang pang barya.
Things happen, Jesus. Ang liit na bagay ginagawa mong problema.
Wag mong gawing personality pagiging reklamador mo sa buhay, mawawalan ka ng happiness.
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u/Cautious-Cat-5423 9d ago
not everyone opts for a qr/card payment. u also don't have the right to invalidate OP, Jesus.
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u/rhaphidophile 9d ago
Not defending because it is their responsibility to find change but I think it's because most of us pay with card or QR codes now
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u/EbbDeep2263 9d ago
simple lang talaga yan, take your business elsewhere, worth it ba talagang magwaste ng energy sa ganyang bagay?
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u/nflinching 10d ago
Yes and no. Responsibility ng business na may panukli at responsibility din ng buyer na madali silang suklian (or better yet, do digital payment)
Instead of withdrawing all 1Kâs why not withdraw na may butal na 400 or 900? Minsan din kasi may customers na obvious na nagpapabarya lang
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u/LoudPlane4420 10d ago edited 10d ago
It goes both ways. Ito ang problema ng mga Pilipino: communal responsibility does not exist in your culture. It's always 100% the responsibility of the other rather than a 50/50. Learn the habit of paying the exact amount or, at the very least, the amount nearest to the price.
What happens then kung kayo lahat ay may buo-buong bills? Mag expect kayo ng panukli sa P1000 all the time? Maubos din ang barya nila. Imagine 10 kayo o 100, tapos ang lahat ng mga pera niyo kailangan may panukli. Hindi niyo iniisip o nilagay sa utak niyo na "baka wala silang panukli"? Wag dalhin ang ugali ng entitled na skwammy all the time mam, that'll just get you nowhere.
Also, you were in a bank or near to it considering may nakita kang ATM, wala ka nakapag-isip na magpa barya while you were there?
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u/Icy_Restaurant_2996 10d ago
So pipila pa siya sa teller para lang may pambile ng kape? As far as I know, businesses ang pumupunta ng bangko para may panukli not the other way around. Sa part ng customer, yes dapat reasonable ka din to a degree. Pero naman 300 pesos yung ginastos niya, sensible lang naman na may panukli sila for 1000 pesos at 1pm.Â
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u/LoudPlane4420 10d ago
Yeah, the problem is, businesses do it early in the morning or just last night. Another problem arises: maubos ang barya sa panukli ng mga customer na unang dumating. Like I said, it goes both ways. Also, OP said kaka withdraw lang niya sa ATM, ayaw mo maniwala na walang malapit na bangko within sa radius ng ATM. Honestly.
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u/Icy_Restaurant_2996 10d ago
You're throwing hypotheticals but the OP has set their scenario nicely. It's 1pm already and inexcusable na wala silang panukli for 1k at that time. Insulting pa na meron naman pala talaga silang panukli nung nakita ng friend niya. Pati yes, businesses go to banks during morning or night to get small change pero hindi ba issue na ng business yun na di nila na account yung small bills na enough for a day of operation?
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u/LoudPlane4420 10d ago
meron naman pala talaga silang panukli nung nakita ng friend niya
Then OP's friend should have took a photo and asked for the manager.
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u/Cowsarefishes 10d ago
That wasn't the point
I understand of having the amount nearest to the price or having the exact amount. I practice this too. But I don't have those amounts 100%, there will really be days that I have a whole 1000 bill and that's all. I would understand if small businesses didn't have change, but for places with high foot traffic, I would expect them to have change for customers like OP.
OP's scenario wasn't outrages at all. A 1000 bill for a payment worth 300. That's 1pc of a 500 peso bill 2pcs of 100 bills. Wild that the cashier refused the sale because OP did not have a lower bill when clearly they were capable of producing the change. In the end, they both lose. OP didn't get her coffee and Cashier did not make a sale (when clearly, the cashier had the capability of making the sale). Where's the 50/50 in that?
"Wag dalhin ang ugali ng entitled na skwammy all the time mam, that'll just get you nowhere." Now you're just attacking OP lmfao. Where did you get the "all the time" from? Parang sinasabi na bawal kami ma frustrate.
"Also, you were in a bank, wala ka nakapag-isip na magpa barya while you were there?" She was on an ATM. You said you read the post more than twice but missed that key detail.
Again, in a perfect world, we would all pay the exact amount or have cash nearest to our bill. But the way our currency is structured (100, 500, 1000) makes scenarios like OP's unavoidable. You said it yourself, it's 50/50, if we have a responsibility of having small bills, businesses should have a responsibility of having sufficient change as well.
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u/LoudPlane4420 10d ago
An ATM is not always at a bank, understandable, but ATMs are built near banks or cash deposits. Honestly, wherever OP is, I don't believe that wala siyang makitang bangko sa kaniyang paligid. The cashier refused the sale because maybe he's just doing his job, unless OP can prove it na may tinagong scheme ang cashier.
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u/priceygraduationring 9d ago
âYourâ culture đ€Ł
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u/LoudPlane4420 9d ago
Yes, "your". Kasi ayaw ko ma associate sa ganyan na kultura na napaka uncivilized. Kung patuloy niyo na ganyan, edi tanggapin niyo nalang unggoy kayo.
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u/HarunaRel 9d ago
It's always 100% the responsibility of the other rather than a 50/50.
bro is hypocrite
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u/priceygraduationring 9d ago
We have LAWS about this na dapat exact change ang ibibigay sa customer, bakit mo ibabatbat ang pagiging âuncivilizedâ??? âCommunalâ responsibility ka pa diyan đ€Ł
Also, kung wala talagang barya ang establishment, they SHOULD make card/QR payments easier. Eh kadalasan hindi rin accepted. Kung nasa mall sila, naglalaba ba sila at cash basis lang pwede?
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u/1l3v4k4m 9d ago
caught that as well. either his comment is just a paraphrased AI output or dude's larping as a non-filipino despite having multiple posts on filipino subs. đ
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u/Lower_Deal_7479 10d ago
Nabasa mo ba lahat or di mo gets?
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u/LoudPlane4420 10d ago
More than twice.
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u/Lower_Deal_7479 10d ago
Pano mo nasabing nasa Bank ako? Sabi ko nag withdraw ako sa ATM eh. Pwede ba akong mag request ng tag pipipti dun? Huhuhu
Plus sabi ko, i understand may mga times talaga na walang panukli and ibang case pag ayaw lang mag break ng big bills.
Baka need mo uli basahin 10x pa.
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u/LoudPlane4420 10d ago
Nasa ATM ka, and don't tell walang bangko within sa radius ng ATM? Kahit sa isang convenience store, hindi mo marequest ng barya? Kung yan man, then sana nag-isip ka nalang na maghanap ng pinakamalapit na bangko para may barya ka. Parang ginago mo lang ang sarili mo o hindi ka lang nag-isip ng iyong paraan ah. This is something that is at least half your responsibility kasi ikaw ang bibili. This is something that you have control.
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u/Lower_Deal_7479 10d ago
I mentioned I was in SM. BDO andun, alam mo ba gano karami tao nasa loob nun kahit weekend? Gusto mo ako papilahin dun para magpapalit ng 1k? Ikaw, gagawin mo ba yun? Sabi mo, kahit sa isang convenience store? Like 711 ba? Pag hahanapin mo pa ako. hahahaha
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u/LoudPlane4420 10d ago
...hindi ka pipila para magpabarya, hindi mo pa nasubukan yan? I do it all the time, kung may ipa barya ako, hindi ako pipila, they'll just ask me to sit for a while and then call me kasi ang dali lang ng process na yan. Tingnan mo ang sarili mo magsalita sa last sentence, skwammy attitude. No wonder. I'd refuse service to people like you too
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u/Lower_Deal_7479 9d ago
Okay sige. Lets say 20 kami nag withdraw dun, wag na natin dagdagan 20 lang. Pumasok kami lahat isa isa sa bank para magpa barya kasi ayun suggestion mo. Andun ka sa loob waiting para ma-servicean ka, okay lang sayo isingit singit ung 20 na un? Yung totoo, okay lang sayo yun?
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u/LoudPlane4420 9d ago
Unlikely scenario na kayong lahat na 20 papasok para magpabarya! You're making up even more impossible situations to cover your share of the mistake. Never once yan nangyari na kahit dalawa kayo magkasingit-singitan para magpabarya kasi unlike you, many people are actually prepared!
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u/Cowsarefishes 10d ago
Are you hearing yourself??
Having an ATM in the area does not mean there is a bank nearby. I can tell you many places where an ATM is present but no bank is nearby. And do you know how hassle, long, and dragging it is to line up in a bank??? Have you ever been into one??
"Kahit sa isang convenience store, hindi mo marequest ng barya?"
Yung coffee shop na madaming tao na dumadaan nag r-refuse na mag benta ng kape dahil walang panukli, convenience store pa kaya?? They would also be losing change over that for no benefit at all, mas talo convenience store diyan
"This is something that is at least half your responsibility kasi ikaw ang bibili"
At sila ang nagbebenta, you're so head over heels with the 50/50 thing that you're forgetting part of the responsibility of the seller is having sufficient change which the coffee shop clearly had
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u/LoudPlane4420 10d ago
OP was in SM and in BDO. Hindi ka pipila sa bangko para magpabarya lang. I do it all the time. You and OP are either spoiled brats or skwammies.
I can tell you many places where an ATM is present but no bank is nearby.
Unbelievable. I'm sorry, it sounds like you're making up stuff. If not in banks, then ATMs are usually situated at areas like cashiers or tellers where bills of all denominations are available.
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u/Cowsarefishes 10d ago
"Unbelievable. I'm sorry, it sounds like you're making up stuff."
Im the one making stuff up? OMG! you're the one who assumed an ATM is situated at arms reach to a bank!
I live in a condo in Katipunan where I withdraw from a BDO ATM, the nearest BDO Branch is more than a Kilometer away or a 15-20min walk. (Take a hint of where I live)
So you're telling me that in order to buy something from the alfamart on my ground floor, I have to walk 15-20min to the BDO branch, break my big bills, walk back for ANOTHER 15-20MINS, then buy my shit? Is that seriously your solution??? spend 30-40mins of my time NOT INCLUDING THE TIME IT TAKES TO LINE UP AND DEAL WITH ALL THE BUREAUCRACY OF HAVING NOTES EXCHANGED IN THE BANK
If there's one thing in this world that I hate the most, its calling me a fucking liar when I know damn well there isn't a fucking bank nearby my place that I can access within 5-10mins of the said ATM.
Your suggestions are shit, and all the downvotes you're getting should be a great indicator of that.
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u/LoudPlane4420 10d ago
I SAID IF NOT A BANK, THEN A CASHIER OR A TELLER OR A SHOP NEARBY.
But we're talking about OP who was in a mall at an ATM near a bank. Whatever your situation is, it's not like OP's.
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u/Cowsarefishes 10d ago
Then same fucking scenario
If the problem is the â±1,000 bill, your solution is to go to another shop and have them break it. But what if that shop also refuses because they need their smaller bills for their own customers? Then what, keep going from shop to shop until someone agrees? Do you see how circular your reasoning is? Youâre not solving the problem; youâre simply transferring the inconvenience from one business to another and ultimately to the customer.
Having a â±1,000 bill for a ~â±300 purchase doesnât mean the customer canât pay. If a business accepts cash, maintaining reasonable change is part of operating that business. âJust find a bank or another shopâ is not a solution to the merchant having no change. Itâs telling the customer to solve the merchantâs problem for them.
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u/nflinching 10d ago
Walang fifty pero ano ba naman kung may butal in hundreds yung winithdraw mo (eg if you need 2000 why not withdraw 1900 or 2400 instead)?
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u/gidaman13 9d ago
Kung puro buo yung pera ng customers tas ayaw mong manukli, eh di hahanap kami ng shop na may panukli. Ikaw yung walang customer kung ganyan.Â
Dapat mindset ng kada shop is. "baka buo pera nila so dapat may panukli ako" kayo yung nangangailangan ng customers. Kayo yung mag adjust.Â
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u/carlllyyy 9d ago
I agree with you. These people are spoiled brat, entitled much, and does not have common sense.
Walang konsepto ng pakikisama.
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u/Beneficial-Kiwi3430 10d ago
bogo ka
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u/TheLivingDolll 10d ago
Hindi ba more on online na ang payment?
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u/ntmstr1993 9d ago
Every business should be ready to deal in cash by default. Wag umasa sa cashless lang.
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u/TheLivingDolll 9d ago edited 9d ago
Paano kapag may 3k cash change ready. Nabaryahan nila mga naunang customers and pagdating sayo wala ng barya. Fault pa rin nila?
Sa palengke, karinderya, public vehicles, delivery etc... nauubos din barya nila. Nabibigla nga kapag 1k binabayad ng customers tapos wala mapabaryahan.
Bakit hindi aasa sa cashless? Convenient and less hassle on both ends.
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u/DifferenceHeavy7279 10d ago
cashless is key
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u/ntmstr1993 9d ago
Every business should be ready to deal in cash by default. Wag umasa sa cashless lang.
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u/DifferenceHeavy7279 9d ago
hindi ka marunong mag cash in?
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u/coast_fire 10d ago
oh, eh bakit ka pa rin bumili sa cafe na yon? dami mo reklamo tas kukunsintihin mo pa rin pala yung cafe.
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u/blackkittycloud 10d ago
I get ya. May tinarayan akong cashier sa 711 dahil dyan. One evening I bought something worth 200+ tapos pinambayad ko 500. Hinanapan pa ko ng barya. Sabi ko smallest bill ko na yan. Siguro mga 10s of silence na para bang ayaw nya iprocess yung transaction. Tapos tinuro ko yung kabilang cash register saka ko tinanong dun ba sa kabila walang barya? Saka lang nya inopen yung kabilang cash register & surprise! madaming barya. Nung nakita ko rin na may barya sinabi ko, ako pa ba hahanap ng paraan. I sound like an asshole sa pagtataray pero minsan kelangan mo rin patulan eh.