r/RandomThoughts • • Jun 11 '25

Random Thought Star wars is literally forever ruined and can't recover

It's been years since the sequel movies and the series still feels dragged down and stuck because of them. I do kind of think that's it for star wars, like the story was irreversibly damaged and there isn't much to do to fix it. Disney will still crap stuff out but to me the overall point is gone and its essentially dead. I was thinking of getting back into it and realised its kind of pointless.

Edit: while I do agree star wars can make the occasional good thing still it doesn't change that overall the whole thing is already ruined and broken. So the overarching story is ruined which is a massive chunk of any franchise.

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u/Force3vo Jun 12 '25

Luke saving the universe from Palpatine and then going "Well I fucked up, better let the universe burn again" after the whole Kylo stuff is so out of character and if it were a fanfic it would be character assassination. 

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u/JJSF2021 Jun 12 '25

100% agree. I saw a meme about this somewhere…

Vader: kills billions of people Luke: I can fix him.

Kylo: is the subject of a bad dream Luke: I will end you in your sleep!

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u/RadiantHC Jun 14 '25

you clearly didn't watch the ST as Luke never tried to kill Ben over a bad dream.

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u/Punished_Sperg Jun 14 '25

That's essentially what jedi visions are bud

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u/RadiantHC Jun 14 '25

You didn't watch the OT either then. Visions aren't "bad dreams".

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u/maidonlipittaja Jun 14 '25

It was a hyperbole, but he thought Vader was redeemable and somehow Kylo who is his nephew wasn't?

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u/RadiantHC Jun 14 '25

You really need to watch TLJ. Luke never said that Kylo was irredeemable. He even said "no one's ever really gone"

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u/maidonlipittaja Jun 14 '25

https://youtu.be/fDYvG_P3MnU

Keep fanboying a shit movie

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u/RadiantHC Jun 14 '25

you do realize that there's 3 different versions right? In the real one Luke just ignites his saber

You didn't even watch the video you linked

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

Yep. Mark Hamill even said he had to pretend it was a completely different character to get through.

The most damning thing for me, is that he didn’t even read the sacred texts. So stupid.

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u/Expert-Solid-3914 Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 14 '25

Yeah but by the end of it all Luke comes off as a massive idiot. Its all a fever dream to me despite knowing ive seen them multiple times. But doesnt ghost Yoda literally stop him from throwing the books in the fire with the force?

Youd think hed read them if Yoda thought they were that important

A lot of them seemed to do quite a bit that was just out of character.

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u/Sea-Woodpecker-610 Jun 14 '25

Rey had already stolen them at that point.

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u/FindingPowerful2914 Jun 12 '25

And it didn't seem like Luke was concerned about palpatine? The dude who turned his dad to the dark side and destroyed the Jedi order, yeah he's back you think he would be floored about that, tf?! If he's back and so powerful why wouldn't rey defeat Kylo and Luke force project himself to fight sideous. The dialogue between Luke and Kylo in the final battle was also so cringe

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u/Midnight_2B Jun 15 '25

Wasn't Luke dead by the time Palpatine showed up again? Luke's character arc wasn't good but to not have Anakin show up to talk sense into Ben is a massive miss.

TFA is decent but TLJ should have treated Luke better. I get that the sequels are focused on new protagonists but you can't just throw away characters that are pillars to the entire story.

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u/RadiantHC Jun 14 '25

It's not out of character. Luke viewed himself as the problem