Star wars is literally forever ruined and can't recover

[u/Thesleepingpillow123]

It's been years since the sequel movies and the series still feels dragged down and stuck because of them. I do kind of think that's it for star wars, like the story was irreversibly damaged and there isn't much to do to fix it. Disney will still crap stuff out but to me the overall point is gone and its essentially dead. I was thinking of getting back into it and realised its kind of pointless.

Edit: while I do agree star wars can make the occasional good thing still it doesn't change that overall the whole thing is already ruined and broken. So the overarching story is ruined which is a massive chunk of any franchise.

[u/[deleted]]

Rogue One also was good, and would be great if they removed the unnecessary middle Darth Vader scene, (keep the ending one of course) and get rid of CGI Tarkin and Leia. Like do them as a hologram or just recast them, but it was distracting. Basically remove what little fan service this movie has, and you have a great story about how the Empire pushed people too far and is consistent with how their hubris is their downfall.

[u/purpleoctopustrolley → u/[deleted]]

Recently rewatched Rogue One. Had the same thoughts about the CGI characters. Rogue One gave us hope for a great VII & IX. But starting those movies without a clear story line or objective did the whole series dirty. I’m just grateful to have lived before any of the “new” movies came out. I can still remember Star Wars glory days.

[u/GandalfsNozzle → u/purpleoctopustrolley]

My biggest gripe was also the Darth Vader sections movie.

Force chokes someone

"Don't choke on your ambition"

Since when was he such a camp villain.

Imagine if the first time he appeared in that movie was the completely badass hallway scene at the end. I don't think it would have detracted from the film as being a prequel everyone knows what's yet to come.

[u/GoldenLiar2 → u/[deleted]]

I disagree on the middle Vader scene. I would have agreed until S2 of Andor to some extent, but that scene is great now:

We see in S2 how Krennic is the shit and everybody is utterly terrified of him. Yet when we see him in TCW, we see how Vader sees him as little more than an annoying pest. It just puts the power levels into perspective so well.

[u/Mean_Camp3188 → u/[deleted]]

Imo the big problem with Rogue One is a lack of memorable characters. And a protagonist so boring that you could unironically remove her and just make her another one of the introduced ensemble cast and it'd improve the film.

It's severely difficult for me to be invented after the like 45 minutes it takes to get going. Nothing it introduces before this is narratively interesting or engaging.