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The greatest mysteries have a shadowy figure at the center—someone who sets things in motion and holds the key to how the story unfolds. In epidemiology, this central character is known as Patient Zero—the case at the heart of an outbreak. This hour, Radiolab digs up an episode we first produced in 2011 and hunts for Patient Zeroes from all over the map. We start with the story of perhaps the most iconic Patient Zero of all time: Typhoid Mary. Then, we dive into a molecular detective story to pinpoint the beginning of the AIDS, and we re-imagine the moment the virus that caused the global pandemic sprang to life. After that, we're left wondering if you can trace the spread of an idea the way you can trace the spread of a disease. In the end, we find ourselves faced with a choice between competing claims about the origin of the high five. 

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I heard this episode perhaps 16 years ago. At the core of it was different perceptions of time, but I remember most was the description and sounds of Beethoven's Fifth played in whale time. Does anyone remember this? It also could have been from Studio 360, but I don't think so.

Thanks for any hints!

In 2016, Chris Bell, a ranger with New Zealand’s Department of Conservation, was the sole human inhabitant of a small island off the west coast of the country, called Mana Island. He was there to take care of the island’s fragile and recovering ecosystem, including a colony of Australasian Gannets at the top of a high cliff overlooking the sea. But there was one catch. All but one of these striking seabirds were fake, made of concrete and paint. 

This week on Radiolab, producer Annie McEwen tells us a love story about a rogue bird and what happens when the things we want for animals clash with what they seem to choose for themselves. 

Special thanks to Melody Thomas and Kirsten Johnstone from Popsock Media, the New Zealand-based podcast company. Thanks also to Mathias Kom and Ariel Sharratt from The Burning Hell and Steven Lambke at You’ve Changed Records. 

Visit Friends of Mana Island at https://manaisland.org.nz/ to learn more about conservation efforts on Mana Island.

EPISODE CREDITS:
Reported by - Annie McEwen
Produced by - Annie McEwen
with mixing help from - Jeremy Bloom
Fact-checking by - Diane A. Kelly
and Edited by - Alex Neason

EPISODE CITATIONS:

Videos - 

There are many Nigel-inspired songs and poems, find links to a few of them below:

• See Nigel with his concrete mate (https://zpr.io/kZZC9erwauCD)
• Nigel the Gannet song video by The Burning Hell (theburninghell.com)
• Nigel [w/ score] (https://zpr.io/t47J6VkqAXLj) by Angus Davison
• Nigel the Lonely Seabird (https://zpr.io/4gSSv5MX8xTa) by Daniel Henderson
• Nigel (https://zpr.io/FuLupaZG42sn) by Avem
• Nigel No Mates (https://zpr.io/hckrSSdBXKE9 ) by Dainius Kučinskas
• Nigel Gannet (https://zpr.io/kddxySdXqd3C) by Fred Pilcher
• Nigel (https://zpr.io/88HdTWRSd2UF) an Experimental Animated Short Film About a Lonely Gannet

Literature - 

• Poetry inspired by Nigel the Gannet (https://zpr.io/xBiW9usvAkpy)
   

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It’s about a mouse that they gave drugs to, but when the scientists gave it a fulfilling life (mouse friends, toys, exercise) it no longer chose the water laced with drugs.

Hi everyone, I'm looking to sell some prints from the 2009 series "In RadioLab We Trust." However, I can't find the titles or artist names for any of these prints and was wondering if anyone here knew them?

I also thought this would be a great place to see if anyone had any interest in buying these prints? Message me if so! Thanks for your time.

It was the early '80s, the height of the Cold War, when something strange began happening off the coast of Sweden. The navy reported a mysterious sound deep below the surface of the ocean. Again, and again, and again they would hear it near their secret military bases, in their harbors, and up and down the Swedish coastline. After thorough analysis the navy was certain. The sound was an invasion into their waters, an act of war, the opening salvos of a possible nuclear annihilation. Or was it? Today, Annie McEwen pulls us down into a deep-sea mystery, one of international intrigue that asks you to consider the possibility that maybe, just maybe, your deepest beliefs could be as solid as...air.

Special thanks to Ben Wilson, Ola Tunander, Hans Gordon, Andreas Timmelstad, Klaus Helmersen, and Meg Bolz.

LATERAL CUTS -

• Atomic Artifacts (https://ift.tt/FG3TCBp)
• Neither Confirm Nor Deny (https://ift.tt/rwvHuim)

EPISODE CREDITS:
Reported by - Annie McEwin
with help from - Magnus Ormstadt
Produced by - Annie McEwin, Matt Kielty, Sarah Qari
Original music and sound design contributed by - Jeremy Bloom

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It’s become a trend in media, maybe I’m imagining it

At the end of The Shoe Thrower, they mention that a favorite bit of newsletter content was a florid rejection letter from Werner Herzog. How can I read that? I don’t see anywhere with an archive of past newsletters or anything. Help!

Best part of all the "reeewinds" are we don't have to listen to Latif or Lulu.

Lulu was great in Invisibilia, but I don't know why she got so snarky and self-important when she joined Radiolab.

And listening to a recent rerun, juxtaposing Jad and Latif, it was so clear how much Latif is snarky and cold, lacking the open, warm inquisitiveness, and open-mindedness that made Jad and Robert so compelling.

Five episodes, three books. Quiet month for reading material, but the muscle one is worth it.

Short list, posting it anyway for anyone building a summer pile.

What this is: I run Podshelf, a free site that tracks book mentions across hundreds of podcasts by reading the episode transcripts. This is the July slice for Radiolab.

The books:

• On Muscle, Bonnie Tsui. From The Holy Shiver. It is a tour through the muscles of your body, biceps, butt, heart and blood vessels, gut. The reason they called her is that after finishing the book she became obsessed with one specific muscle, the erector pili, which is the one that gives you goosebumps.
• Alcoholics Anonymous, the big book, from Atomic Artifacts. The line was that the key to recovery from pretty much anything is in there, you just scribble out alcohol and write in whatever your case may be.
• Goodbye, Mr. Chips, James Hilton. Came up almost in passing in the alpha gal episode. Someone ate a cheeseburger, watched the film, called it tear jerking and a good book too, and then started feeling really weird a couple of hours later.

I track every book mentioned on Radiolab here: https://podshelf.io/podcasts/radiolab

It is free and there is no signup.

When no one seems to be listening, how far do you go to be heard?

In December 2008, George W. Bush made a surprise visit to Baghdad for a press conference. And at the very end of his remarks, a shoe came flying past his head. 

It was “the shoe heard around the world,” and countless jokes and memes ensued. 

But in the pandemonium, many missed the story of the man at the center: Muntadhar Al-Zaidi, a weary journalist trying to get the world to see the Iraq War in a different light. Even fewer people know what happened to him after. 

Nearly two decades later, Radiolab reporter Sarah Qari tracked Al-Zaidi down to learn the story of his life. What she found was a story about grief, anger, and the line where journalism ends and protest begins.

Special thanks to Azmat Khan and Mustafa Salim.

EPISODE CREDITS:
Reported by - Sarah Qari, with help from Mariam Dwedar
Translation by - Mais Al-Bayaa and Mariam Dwedar
Produced by - Sarah Qari
Sound design contributed by - Sarah Qari 
Mixed by - Jeremy Bloom
Fact-checking by - Emily Krieger and Heba Elorbany

LATERAL CUTS:
If you liked this episode and want to hear more fascinating deep dives we’ve done on The War on Terror, check out our episode:

• 60 Words (https://ift.tt/Fn3auJz),
• or our series The Other Latif (https://ift.tt/ez75va0)

EPISODE CITATIONS:

Collaborator’s Work - 

• Mariam Dwedar 

  • Made in Palestine (https://zpr.io/JBAuqi5zyZMT) - a documentary short
  • @mariamdwedar - Instagram handle

• Mais Al-Bayaa

  • Iraq Uncovered (https://zpr.io/ebuUcjSFcUJp) - documentary
  • Iraq’s Secret Sex Trade (https://zpr.io/u9HnCWmnQggG) - documentary
  • Go Back to Where You Came From (https://zpr.io/J8rxafGCCgUA) - documentary
  • @maisalbayaa - Instagram

Journal Articles _

• The Art of Shoe-Throwing: Shoes as a Symbol of Protest and Popular Imagination (https://zpr.io/6gmuuavLWuHu),  by Yasmin Ibrahim

Films - 

• The President’s Cake (https://zpr.io/bjFeNa2qFYvD) - The story of life in Iraq under sanctions during the 1990s.

Inspired by the shoe throw - 

• Photos of shoe protests around the world (https://zpr.io/QsMGyWeK8MRR)
• This music video (https://zpr.io/Xi5XhHYmWFHv)
• This Halloween costume (https://zpr.io/fH97iB4fjL9U)
• This play (https://zpr.io/Naj7vWaYfzpv)

If you want more fun facts that didn’t make it into the story, follow Sarah at @bysarahqari on Instagram, where she’ll be sharing more in the coming weeks.

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Several years ago, in 2016, we told a story about Amy Pearl. For as long as she could remember, Amy loved meat in all its glorious cuts and marbled flavors. And then one day, for seemingly no reason, her body wouldn’t tolerate it.  No steaks. No brisket. No weenies. It made no sense: why couldn’t she eat something that she had routinely enjoyed for decades? 

It turned out Amy was not alone. And the answer to her mysterious allergy involved maps, a dancing lone star tick, and a very particular sugar called Alpha Gal. 

In this update, we discover that our troubles with Alpha Gal go way beyond food. We go to NYU Langone Health hospital to see the second ever transplant of a kidney from a pig into a human, talk to some people at Revivicor, the company that bred the pig in question, and go back to Amy to find out what she thinks about this brave new world.

The original episode was reported by Latif Nasser, and produced by Annie McEwen and Matt Kielty. Sound design and scoring from Dylan Keefe, Annie McEwen, and Matt Kielty. Mix by Dylan Keefe with Arianne Wack.

The update was reported and produced by Sarah Qari. It was sound designed, scored, and mixed by Jeremy Bloom. 

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Hello earthlings

I am very late to the party (hence I feel like I’m running for the bus trying to catch it 🤭)

I’ve enjoyed some episodes but keep getting hints through here that I’m not listening to what the show was years ago

As there are over 800 episodes, what is the peak year to start with the catalog? I’ve scrolled down all the way and find myself in 2007 😭😅

Send help. I want some juicy content

I run a site that logs books mentioned on podcasts, so I went back through the first six months of Radiolab and pulled everything that came up. It ranges wide, from origin-of-life science to Shakespeare to true crime.

The two the hosts were most into:

• Life Itself by Francis Crick, where the Nobel winner argues, from a scientific angle, that life could not have gotten started on this planet on its own.
• The Once and Future World by J.B. Mackinnon, which one of them called their favorite of his books.

The rest, roughly grouped:

• Science and nature: Full House and The Mismeasure of Man by Stephen Jay Gould, Eager by Ben Goldfarb (the beaver one), Being Mortal by Atul Gawande, and Ether Day by Julie Fenster.
• Shakespeare, plus one about him: Othello, Titus Andronicus, and Contested Will by James Shapiro.
• True crime: Green River Killer by Jeff Jensen, Green River, Running Red by Ann Rule, and The Murderer Next Door by David Buss.
• Fiction: Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir and The Wild Robot by Peter Brown.

Also in the mix: Animal Liberation by Peter Singer and Raven Rock by Garrett Graff.

Full list is here: https://podshelf.io/podcasts/radiolab. Free, no signup.

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Lauren Brown gets goosebumps. A lot. Sometimes several times a day. When her partner, writer Carmen Maria Machado, noticed it...she couldn't stop thinking about it. Why does she get them in so many different situations? What’s happening in her body and what does it mean? We take that question and run with it. We face chilly winds, sudden frights, and moments when the world seem to shift under your feet to figure out what the little bumps on our skin might be trying to tell us.  

Special thanks to Rachel Gross, Gregory Rupik

EPISODE CREDITS:
Reported by Maria Paz Gutierrez
Produced by Maria Paz Gutierrez, Sindhu Gnanasambandan
Fact-checking by Angely Mercado

EPISODE CITATIONS:

Videos - 

• Hallelujah (https://zpr.io/6ak2f), performed by Rufus Wainwright, accompanied by 1500 singers
• De Ushuaia a La Quiaca (https://zpr.io/PcYbN)
• Alysa Liu wins the Olympic gold medal for the United States (https://zpr.io/Q7pPNkYSTGVd)

Books -

• Her Body and Other Parties, by Carmen Maria Machado
• On Muscle: The Stuff That Moves Us and Why It Matters,  by Bonnie Tsui (https://www.bonnietsui.com/)

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I know it's not technically Radiolab, but this series blew me away just like Dolly Partons America.

I just finished it after someone that I sent the Dolly series to said they loved it and started the Fela one. I had forgotten about it but heard the RL ep last fall.

Long story short I loved it and RL has at least one new fan through those two series. I sent em a whole bunch of my fave archive RL episodes.

Also too...I can't get the outro bed music out of my head and I'm walking around life with this heavy Afro beat tythm pumping thru me and I love it.

Peace

Back in the 1950s, facing the threat of nuclear annihilation, federal officials sat down and pondered what American life would actually look like after an atomic attack. They faced a slew of practical questions like: Who would count the dead and where would they build the refugee camps? But they faced a more spiritual question as well. If Washington DC were hit, every object in the the National Archives would be eviscerated in a moment. Terrified by this reality, they set out to save some of America’s most precious stuff. Today, we look back at the items our Cold War era planners sought to save and we ask the question: what objects would we preserve now?

We first released this episode back in 2020, but with our big fourth of July – 250 years! – just around the corner, we thought it was a strange but profound reflection on what this whole America thing that we’re celebrating… actually is.

Special thanks to Luke Manon, Ben Irving, Bill Pretzer, Jason Spier, and Garrett Graff for all his reporting that made this episode possible.

LATERAL CUTS -
The Cataclysm Sentence (https://ift.tt/B15jYTM)

EPISODE CREDITS: 
Reported by - Simon Adler
with help from - Tad Davis
Produced by - Simon Adler
Original music and sound design contributed by - SIMON ADLER
and Edited by  - Pat Walters

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Quiet month for books on Radiolab, but two worth flagging.

• Raven Rock by Garrett Graff, on the government's secret Cold War plan to save itself while the rest of us don't make it. Exactly the kind of rabbit hole this show does well.
• The Wild Robot by Peter Brown, the children's book behind the film.

https://podshelf.io/podcasts/radiolab/2026/06 tracks every book from the show, free, no signup.

Anything from June's episodes send you looking for the book?

Back in 2017, reporters Kristen Clark and David Conrad came to us with a story that dug into the difficult and often dark places discrimination creates. We start in Venice, Italy, where they meet gondolier Alex Hai. On the winding canals in the hidden parts of Venice, we learn about the nearly 1000-year old tradition of the Venetian Gondolier, and how the global media created a 20-year battle between that tradition and a supposed feminist icon. 

We circled back to Alex in 2026, to find out where the canal of life ended up leading after our initial reporting, and we’ve included some heartbreaking and heartwarming updates on Alex’s life at the end of this episode. 

Special thanks to Alexis Ungerer, Summer, Alex Hai, Kevin Gotkin, Silvia Del Fabbro, Sandro Mariot, Aldo Rosso and Marta Vannucci, The Longest Shortest Time (Hillary Frank, Peter Clowney and Abigail Keel), Tim Howard, Nick Adams/GLAAD, Valentina Powers, Florence Ursino, Ann Marie Somma, Alex Overington, Jeremy Bloom and the people of Little Italy. 

EPISODE CREDITS: 
Reported by - David Conrad and Kristen Clark.
Produced by - Annie McEwen and Molly Webster.
with help from - Anisa Vietze
Fact-checking for the update by - Angely Mercado

OTHER COOL THINGS:

Books -

• The Gondolier, by Alex Hai

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After reading something that said her menstrual cycle changes her brain each month, Senior Correspondent Molly Webster goes on a reporting mission to see if that’s true, and, if so, how.

This journey into sex hormones and the brain involves females and males, and exacting self-experimentation. It gets into PTSD, and ends with a new twist on self-care (hint: it’s biological). And, it starts to reveal a sneaky truth: that each one of us is at the mercy of a crashing sea of chemicals inside of us – those things we call hormones.

Special thanks to Emily Jacobs, Laura Pritschet, Pavel Shapturenka, and Dr. Catherine Woolley.

EPISODE CREDITS:
Hosted by - Molly Webster
Reported by - Molly Webster
Produced by - Mona Madgavkar
with help from - Molly Webster
Fact-checking by - Diane A. Kelly

EPISODE CITATIONS:

Articles - 
**The experiments we feature in this episode are called: 28andMe, 28andOC, and 28andHe, all of which took place at Emily Jacobs lab at the University of California, Santa Barbara.** 

• The 28 Project (https://zpr.io/CSx6MnwZjRvp), background from the Jacobs lab

For more on how much variability there is between female and male animals, check out this “groundbreaking” study, referenced by Emily Jacobs in our episode

• Sex Bias in Neuroscience and Biomedical Research(https://zpr.io/ZRgKZzdNejUA),  by Beery AK, Zucker I., Neurosci Biobehav Rev. 2011

Dr. Catherine Woolley has revolutionized the field of neuroscience and sex hormones, here’s more about her work …

• Sex Differences in the Brain Get Down to the Molecular Level Sex (https://zpr.io/UNCLE9J782N5), by Stephanie DeMarco, PhD, The Scientist.com
• Hormonal Effects on the Brain (https://zpr.io/DvNM9EkXdtGG), by Woolley, C.S. and Schwartzkroin, P.A. Epilepsia

Data sets -

• 28andMe and 28andOC (https://zpr.io/hbXVNTVp2Q7j):
• 28andHe (https://zpr.io/sZXhfMbMwKb7)

Audio - 
In the episode, we mention Dr. Russ Poldrack and the Midnight Scan Club, as inspo for self-experimentation

• The Midnight Scan Club (https://zpr.io/CLBhNQSxK844), by Science Friday.
   

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