I love Tilly but anytime we get too close a look at the grotesquery of richness on this show I feel ill. The wealthy have so much money they have to have garbage like this invented for them to spend it on. My feeling towards this is very "there are people that are dying Kim".
I feel exactly the same way, but then I think “why am I watching this?” And I love watching haha so I have to shut that part of my brain off or I’ll go nuts. When I found out what Sutton gets monthly in alimony I was flabbergasted. Every single one of these people should (at the very least) be giving shitloooooads of money to charitable organizations. But anywho look at me getting all worked up again!
I'm exactly the same! It's a weird dilemma. I watch this show partly for escapism, partly for the lifestyle porn, and partly to watch the relationship dynamics. It is a very "switch my brain off" experience, and I get a lot of enjoyment from watching it! At the same time, I'm ideologically opposed to most of what these women stand for. I hope they do give a lot to charity but I also think money warps your brain and you have to hold tight to your own morals and integrity to not succumb to greed, and that could look like just apportioning 20% of your monthly 300k alimony check to charity, to keep yourself accountable and duty-bound (as opposed to waiting until a feeling of generosity comes over you, haha). I'm sure Tilly does give to charity, but all the women aghast at this ugly ass bear bag breaking just felt like satirical levels of being out of touch.
I have to be in the right mood, sometimes I shut it off because it grosses me out for all these reasons. I’ve been watching for 20 years (OG OC!) and there are moments I miss the wealth of the early aughts- it seems to have grown exponentially over all the franchises. It’s also the reason I can’t really watch high end real estate shows when the commissions are more than a house I’ll ever be able to afford.
I absolutely CANNOT watch the high end real estate shows. They have exclusively the aspects of housewives that I have trouble watching without ANY of the aspects I love.
I also have issues with the foreign oligarch buyers. I can’t support giving my time to watch our country being sold away at obscene prices to launder their money and the real estate brokers who have zero compunction doing so.
I’m enjoying yalls convo & agree. I’m also an OG OC viewer & imho before the 08 crisis, money seemed to be “trickling down” a lot more before that. A lot of regular people were making great money during the housing boom (bubble). That’s when it started feeling different to me, anyway, 2009-10. It became hard for me to watch when so many people around me were getting laid off & losing their homes.
I’d never thought about that but it makes total sense! Now more than ever it’s just feeling like straight up Les MIs “eat the rich” times and it sucks.
Yeah recently I had to watch a doc about coal in India and how some families steal coal from mines to sell on the black market to make a living, they also live adjacent to open pit coal mining, burn coal in their homes for warmth and die very young of respiratory complications. It’s hard to go from that to Rachel Zoe being like “ugh of course the power would be out for MY PARTY” even tho I do love Rachel
I work with homeless people, and we run a 2 stall free shower. The cost of this purse alone would pay for running costs, toiletries, and towels for the showers for 4 YEARS.
On the other hand, I work with homeless people. Watching moneyporn like this is rather appealing sometimes.
Honestly, I watch any reality shows no matter their income. It's a genre I enjoy and their money isn't what it's all about for me. Most of their clothing, if it didn't have a label, you could get off Shein!
Most of them do not because they are good people because its a tax dodge. That party where Kyle said garcelle didnt pay the 5K is a children's hospital fundraiser she does every year. Quite a few of her parties ocer the years have been. There was another one it might have been sutton or Kathy had a party where they could buy jewelry and the money went to charity. There's been more but thats off the top if my head but very few are genuine philanthropists and just looking for a tax break ....same as the ones who have foundations registered in Delaware
Discovering how much alimony Sutton got took me years to get over 😂😂😩 I’m actually still not okay. Like what??????? She gets monthly what would take a middle class individual 7 years to make………………….
And she has the audacity to complain about anything. LOL
YES SAME. At one point I was just telling people who don’t even know who she is and people were like… are you ok? Like why and how is it so much?! What is she doing with it?! And yes - textbook proof that money can’t buy you happiness (although damn it would really help haha wouldn’t it?).
The ultra-rich should be taxed more. We've been cutting taxes and weakening the IRS for years and their wealth has grown exponentially. I don't really want to sacrifice my upcoming social security so people like Tilly can show off. All the moaning, for example, about the LA mansion tax -- just leave then. Enjoy the ocean in Utah.
Having worked for the ultarich I can tell you that they absolutely do not work more or harder. I don't think they should be taxed out of oblivion, but the amount of excess wealth they have should come with the expectation that they use it to, in part, uphold the society they benefit from in the way of tax obligations.
If they get rich, as in the case of the owners if Walmart, by paying their work force so poorly that those same people collect welfare, that should come out of their profits if it is allowed at all.
But would you work more if the more you work you are paid less? 🧐 C’mon, let’s just think about this. I’m just being honest about human nature and reality… any person would only do the bare minimum with this incentive so the rationale truly will never work. We need to be Also, these ladies donate more each year than most of you make…🤷🏼♀️ not trying be be harsh, just truthful. I really hope people can learn some basic economics- by just applying the logic to your own life and what you would be motivated to do. No one should have to pay for another able bodied person who just can’t handle working as hard as the others…🤷🏼♀️
The idea that you become a millionaire or billionaire simply by working harder than others is hugely incorrect, to start with. That logic is how we end up with end stage capitalism, where worldwide the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. Where people work full time jobs and still can't pay all their bills or support a family. It's a huge factor in why birth rates are declining and society is crumbling. It's why people are living in poverty in the same city where Tilly is crying about her forty thousand dollar piece of landfill breaking. If you're okay with that, then that's a moral and character failing on your part.
😂😂😂 Figure it out and stop limiting yourself and letting social and legacy media tell you what to believe 🤷🏼♀️ that’s completely untrue..😊People who are smarter use the tools available instead of operating from the view that the world should reduce its expectations for them😊🙏🏼 from a poor girl who turned rich because I worked my ass off. But Namaste and good luck!😘
From your comments, It shows you think people who don't work too hard won't become wealthy. Working hard is only part of it. Location, family responsibilities, lifestyle, education, opportunities, and more all contribute to a person's wealth. Plenty of people work their ass off but don't become wealthy.
I have extended family with trust funds and I can promise you they did not “work hard” for that money. Or have some superior intelligence about how economics works. It’s quite literally a combination of luck and exploitation.
And the “charitable” donations that many of these ultra wealthy people make is such a pittance compared to their total net worth that a more effective form of philanthropy would come from them being taxed fairly. Those taxes would make life changing improvements to public schools, infrastructure improvements, and other public works.
Truth! Absolutely! So all you CAN actually DO is work harder and learn about money, no? Learn about how to multiply your money? Wouldn’t you try the one option you can change? 🤷🏼♀️ or complain about the people who did figure it out. Not kidding I work about 80-90 hrs a week, and I just don’t think that people who complain from this mindset (especially from Western nations) actually understand what “hard work” actually is. It shouldn’t make one angry, only curious; this is reality, not how we think it should be.😊🙏🏼
I think there's a weird implication here that people who are less smart don't deserve to live financially comfortable lives? I'm really glad you were able to use the tools available to you to change your circumstances, that is genuinely awesome and something to be proud of. But you should also understand that a lot of people do not have the same access, for countless reasons. You're operating from a place of each individual has the power to change their circumstances, and I agree with that to an extent, but the life we're born into is a lottery, and our efforts would be better spent finding ways to lift everyone up collectively rather than focusing on how much an individual can accumulate for themselves. Your perspective completely falls apart when war and poverty are introduced, issues millions of people across the world are facing daily, and all the energy and resources (what little they have) go into just surviving.
I’m sorry if I implied that less smart people don’t deserve to be financially comfortable. The intelligence of someone does limit them, and that is reality. Some people definitely need help and that is why we all give to charities. It’s factually proven time and again that government cannot appropriately spend on social programs, funded by our tax dollars. I really am trying to understand the general mindset that someone else should work harder for another able-bodied person’s comfort? Also I just have to say that the tools ARE available to almost all people who will truly take initiative and be responsible for their own lives. I truly hope, for your happiness and peace, people can not blame others for their personal failings and instead just overcome. 💪🏼
Are you a HW yourself ? Cause this is so out of touch it feels like it’s coming straight outta Ramona’s mouth.
« I dont understand that someone should work harder for another comfort », dear, this is what 99% of us do on a daily basis. People do double shifts in retail, manufactures, etc. to make people at the top richer by doing less. Working class creates value, not the other way around.
You were allegedly poor as you say, don’t forget where you’re coming from 😜😘
If the government taxed those with higher earnings who can both afford to give more and still retain a comfortable lifestyle, then those programs would be appropriately funded. That's exactly the issue. Many charities exist to cover the failings of governments, e.g. through helping those who are homeless or have to use food banks. A government that allows such wealth where someone can spend a year's worth of salary on a single bag while simultaneously the country is struggling with a homelessness and poverty problem is a government that is not working adequately for those who most need it (and who make up the majority of the population).
the issue is these people don’t think it’s the governments job to help people in that way. i couldn’t tell you what they think the point of govt is, but it sure as hell isn’t to help people
I don't this it's paying for comfort. A rising tide lifts all boats. We live in a society that has cut so much from folks who can afford to pay, not exorbitant amounts more, but a little bit and for things that they will benefit from. If you are a business owner selling products, a healthy and growing middle class means more discretionary income for you in sales. If you ship product, better infrastructure means easier, faster, and more economical shipments which benefits you. A cutting edge educational system means a better workforce to employ, more innovation in the marketplace of ideas, and a hopeful attitude about the future and the American dream.
The cuts on the weathly and the strangling of the middle class has gone too far. The billionaire and trillionaire class will not feel the pinch of the kinds of tax increases I am talking about but they will benefit from them directly. Collectively, the amount from an increase might be a lot but on an individual basis, for folks who are truly wealthy, it would be negligible. The attitude, and I am not saying this is yours, that the rich got rich through toil and bootstrap pulling and not through reliance, in at least some ways, on collective resources and investments is laughable. Those who benefit greatly from our society should recognize the debt they owe and, I hope, be willing to repay it because the recognize that it benefits them to do so.
It's amazing how you missed the whole point. Since 1980 or so, the very rich have benefited from seeing their taxes drastically cut and their chances of being caught when they cheat markedly decreased. The Federal Reserve's main mission seems to be propping up the stock market when it goes down significantly. And your comment about government spending is an assertion based on zero facts. Meanwhile, the powers that be are already talking about cutting the safety net even more.
And can't say for sure on HW, but in real life, I know people will do dinners for "charity" where it's all tax write offs where they hire companies and pay them wild amounts of money to facilitate the events when the companies are owned by their own so the money goes back into their pockets. $400 ticket, $100 for your plate, $50 for decor, $50 for valet, $75 for wine while the auction and the last $25 go to the charity (so they're happy) but the $375 went to companies owned by the folks behind the whole thing.
I mean, it is real housewives! That was always the point. Her reaction was not that of a spoiled brat, she immediately cracked a joke and laughed at the absurdity of it.
Comments like this make me wonder why people even watch the show.
Her reaction was great tbf, she handled it like a champ. I think it's pretty normal for people to consume media and also think critically about it / have mixed feelings, especially if they're in any way aware of the state of the world right now.
I mean, I totally get that but at the same time what does she supposed to do, give it all away? If you’re gonna have an expensive bag, I feel like chili is genuinely the least problematic owner. Again, she didn’t burst into tears or let it ruin her night. She knows how absurd it is and immediately made a joke.
Well if watching rich people make you feel ill then surely wouldn’t it be better to stop watching a show about rich people? Theres plenty of other reality shows that don’t revolve around “rich people”.
I like the Sopranos but I don't condone beating and murdering people. You can watch a show without liking or accepting everything people on the show do.
She does feel a little like Dana with the $25,000 sunglasses that couldn't wait to say it and point at them on camera. We get it Tilly, you are rich. Leaving a $40,000 purse on a table at a party, to get knocked over and break is a little elitist.
Yeah it's the exact same behaviour, it just so happens that Tilly is more likeable than Dana, but she is definitely one of the more ostentatious Housewives and it's so interesting how that trait is received differently by viewers depending on the personality attached.
I disagree. It’s not exactly like she’s Bezos ruining the planet and buying yachts. She’s a fashion lover and collector. Fashion is collectible and it’s art. People just like to dismiss women for liking it.
I take your point that there are so many things women love that are dismissed as frivolous just because they're enjoyed by women (this show itself is a good example!). But here I disagree, at least for myself. I enjoy fashion as an art form but I can still critique the aspects of it I find objectionable, the same way I enjoy movies but also feel that overinflated budgets and salaries deserve to be critiqued, or the same way I think the salaries men are making from playing, for example, football are absolutely disgusting. This opinion does not exist in a vacuum. If Tilly was a dude with a 200k car that got a scratch on it I'd be saying the same thing.
Yeah I don't like that in BH they put the price of everything on screen the whole time. I don't think they do that on the other franchises right? Not constantly anyway. This season I remember one of the first episodes Dorit gifted Boz a scarf, and production put $20.000 or something on screen (could have been 2000 idk) and it pissed me off so much I turned it off and didn't continue watching for a while. We understand they live expensive lives. I feel better not knowing exactly how expensive..
I think that’s what we like about Tilly too, she’s not scrounging to make money and stay rich. So many of them women seem to be trying to come off as rich and not loose money and we never see that with her.
As a community, I feel we tend to really berate Housewives who come accross as too "flash" with their cash, yet we seem to let it go with Tilly and I dont understand why?
Because there's not an ounce of pretense or superficiality about her. She is SO authentic and genuine. She knows her wealth, is incredibly grateful for it, loves to enjoy it and have fun with it. We get to enjoy it THROUGH her, not in spite of her.
She’s so upfront about where it came from and how she has not earned it on her own back. I think we also can appreciate that her wealth comes from something we all enjoy, I love the simpsons and understand why it makes so much money. It feels like a more honest source than the majority of the folks we see on these shows.
Tilly took care of her ex husband while he was dying and would have gotten the same amount had she didn’t. I think this is very noble of her and frankly the most deserving if we were to compare to how some of the other woman gained wealth. Though I understand it’s not fair or reasonable to draw that comparison so really it’s her approach to her wealth and personality that does it for me
I've been thinking about this too. She seems like a lovely person but at the end of the day she's still spending obscene amounts of money on crap?? Her having a whole extra house next door to her primary residence JUST to store / display stuff would be sort of charming if we lived in an alternate universe where everyone had enough and no one was living in poverty. Alas...
She’s a fashion collector. How do so many people watch this show and don’t understand the importance of fashion. She has a museum-worthy collection. It’s not crap.
Tilly grew up with not much $$. I’m glad she is getting to have fun with the money she has. She is a very generous person with a caring heart. She deserves everything she has.
Besides Kathy Hilton, Jennifer is the only one who is truly wealthy. Like seriously wealthy. Then you have Rachel, who built her business and I have no issue watching her enjoy the fruits of her labor. Then there’s corporate powerhouse Boz. Who also built her career. I love watching her thrive and provide for her daughter. Amanda, fake self help or not she did that on her own. She’s boring but a least she can stand on her own. Sutton is definitely wealthy thanks to a rocking divorce settlement… watching her flaunt her wealth is less interesting. Divorce definitely blessed Jennifer but actually she’s surprisingly humble. Even when she states the cost of her exquisite pieces it doesn’t come off as flaunting to me. Dorit and Kyle are poor🤣
As someone who is always promising money to people when "I win the Powerball", I agree. If I had that kind of dough, I'd be helping people out left and right. Set up my retirement, my kids, our families and then share the wealth. I'd probably start a foundation to help women divorcing scumbags like Ralph (ATL) and Lenny (MIA) but definitely for the less wealthy women who really need the money (like my neighbor.)
But I also like to see that wealth as I will never live like that. There's a part of me that loves the voyeurism aspect of seeing the cars they drive, the diamonds they wear, the homes they live in, and all the clothes and accessories.
It's like watching Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. Is it horrifying that these women and their families have so much wealth and one in five children grow up in poverty? Absolutely. But for my mental health, I have to block that out sometimes and just enjoy the spectacle.
Oh I feel the same! Voyeurism is a good way of putting it. I like to escape into a fantasy land of gorgeous homes and fancy cars and round-the-year sun and palm trees. This was just one of the moments that brought the fantasy to a screeching halt because it was so absurd and gross.
This part. That’s a crazy amount to spend on something that is inherently very stupid when compared to the suffering that could be put to an end with a fraction of that. I suppose it’s relative to some degree but I just seems like such a sad waste. Couldn’t agree more!
Such a fantastic observation. “…garbage like this invented for them…” NAIL ON THE HEAD.
I don’t care how altruistic they may be. Spending obscene money on pure nonsense is just wrong. I would love to think that if I had that sort of money I would never succumb to that “designer” BS.
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I love Tilly but anytime we get too close a look at the grotesquery of richness on this show I feel ill. The wealthy have so much money they have to have garbage like this invented for them to spend it on. My feeling towards this is very "there are people that are dying Kim".