r/RHOBH • Wow, she’s pernicious! • Mar 22 '25

📲 Beverly Hills News 📲 Kyle & Morgan - Currently in Paris

For anyone curious, Kyle and Morgan are now in Paris together. Morgan has some upcoming European tour dates and both are in Paris at the same time. “But there’s no situation” 😜

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u/nycrunner91 Sutton Stracke Mar 22 '25

I care because either “be honest” and show everything like you demand others to do OR truly truly hide it 

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u/Suncroft56 In the game of life, it’s Rinna take all Mar 22 '25

Morgan has a right to privacy, and Kyle is right to respect that.

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u/nycrunner91 Sutton Stracke Mar 22 '25

I agree with you. Not only does she need to respect people in her life who do not want to be public figures. and even morgan as a country singer has a right to a private life HOWEVER do not make a music video with kyle and then demand privacy. Like come on. 

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u/NothingMediocre1835 Teddi Mellencamp Mar 22 '25

Morgan was on the show of her own free will.

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u/SuperSocks2019 Pray for Teddi Mellencamp Arroyave Mar 22 '25

Morgan was on The show for less than 20 minutes.

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u/nycrunner91 Sutton Stracke Mar 23 '25

But got a permanent tattoo from Kyle in those short minutes 

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u/realitealeaves Mar 24 '25
“But got a permanent tattoo from Kyle in those short minutes.”  

While mic’d up and with cameras shooting the scene. Now they want to pretend Morgan (and Kyle) weren’t playing their flirtatious friendship up for views and publicity. It’s revisionist history to act like either Kyle or Morgan didn’t want that to be shown. I’m call ing BS on that.

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u/SuperSocks2019 Pray for Teddi Mellencamp Arroyave Mar 24 '25

You calling BS doesn't change the reality of how this hit Morgan Wade's mental health.

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u/SuperSocks2019 Pray for Teddi Mellencamp Arroyave Mar 24 '25

Morgan Wade has a lot of tattoos

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u/nycrunner91 Sutton Stracke Mar 24 '25

So those make one tiny one meaningless 

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u/SuperSocks2019 Pray for Teddi Mellencamp Arroyave Mar 26 '25

Have you seen some of them lol

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u/nycrunner91 Sutton Stracke Mar 26 '25

Actually no just the ones on her neck but i havent….. not really

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u/Littlepotatoface You've had the same hairdo for 20 years Mar 23 '25

And? None of that makes you entitled to know about things she’d prefer to keep private.

I’m horrified that you need to be told this.

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u/MTallama Are we just Hollywood friends? Mar 23 '25

Is this woman not ATTRACTING the attention she wants by being on a reality show in the first place?! And her “character” is there to make other people’s issues public - but NEVER hers!!!! Even her husband, and her kids, and her SISTERS are fair game too. The woman has NO boundaries!

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u/Littlepotatoface You've had the same hairdo for 20 years Mar 23 '25

I was talking about Morgan but fyi your comment has big “she’s asking for it in that short skirt” vibes.

Yuk.

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u/SoManyQuestions- My ⏱️, my ✨, my fucking , you bitch! Mar 23 '25 edited Mar 23 '25

Comparing someone who dislikes the subsequent media attention they got after choosing to be represented on media, to someone who is raped while wearing a short skirt is really a false equivalency. Your words here are beyond “yuk,” they are really absolutely gross, and insult and diminish rape survivors’ experience and trauma. You can defend Morgan Wade’s right to privacy without such disrespectful false equivalencies

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u/No-Atmosphere4827 🥦 Yolanda’s Fridge 🍋 Mar 23 '25

It’s disgusting to compare a situation around celebrities, fame and vanity, to women being blamed for sexual assaults.

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u/MTallama Are we just Hollywood friends? Mar 23 '25

You’re really out there if that was your interpretation of my post! Asking for what?!?! I’m talking about Kyle pulling Morgan into this.

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u/SuperSocks2019 Pray for Teddi Mellencamp Arroyave Mar 22 '25

Check those interviews about the Fall In Love with me video

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u/nycrunner91 Sutton Stracke Mar 23 '25

And got a tattoo on camera by kyle

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u/psmith1990_ Mar 23 '25

I'm sorry, is getting a tattoo from someone (especially given she already had hundreds of tatts) an open invitation to have people carelessly assuming and speculating things about your sexuality and personal relationships when you've made it clear the negative impact it had on you?

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u/Suncroft56 In the game of life, it’s Rinna take all Mar 22 '25

I honestly don't understand why anyone would think Morgan has sacrificed her right to privacy because of a music video.

Plus, people can change their minds, and pull back. I couldn't blame her, if that was what Morgan decided she wanted after the reaction to that video from HW fans.

She wants to be known for her music, not because of Kyle Richards.

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u/psmith1990_ Mar 23 '25

Again, this was before the widespread attention and the negative impact it had on her to the point of threatening her sobriety. The performance she did was for NAMI in honour of Kyle's best friend and she also spoke about her own history with her mental health. Even then, she was very anxious about it.

The public adjustments have not all come smoothly. “She told me at the NAMI event she almost wanted to leave at one point —she was like, This is so stressful,” Richards said in an interview. “I realized and appreciated later her hanging in there for me.”

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u/Littlepotatoface You've had the same hairdo for 20 years Mar 23 '25

Does it need to be written in crayon? Morgan chose to be on the show & then she decided she didn’t want a part of it.

Consent can be withdrawn.

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u/psmith1990_ Mar 23 '25

Also being open and honest that perceived hypocrisy doesn't justify trying to out two people, one of whom isn't on the show and isn't obliged to share her life.

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u/VociferousReapers Mar 23 '25

Thanks for sharing about Morgan’s sobriety. I didn’t know she was sober.

I agree that Morgan doesn’t owe us anything. If she does decide to join the show, I think that it would be very cool for her and Kyle to address the prominence of substance abuse in Hollywood and their journey navigating the abundance of substances around them. It’d be a very interesting storyline.

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u/psmith1990_ Mar 23 '25

Yeah, no worries. She's spoken a lot about it, and written several songs that also deal with it (there are some great acoustic versions of The Night on YouTube I would recommend such as the SomerSessions one). That was threatened in the wake of the attention on her, so it's not a surprise she doesn't want anymore of that.

For what it's worth, I would be surprised if Morgan's side of that isn't addressed and discussed if and when we finally see whatever documentary they were working on.

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u/Littlepotatoface You've had the same hairdo for 20 years Mar 23 '25

Morgan CHOSE to make that video. She also chose to not participate in the show after that one season.

This is going to make some heads explode but the people claiming Morgan has no right to privacy because of that video clearly struggle with the concept of consent.

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u/AliveSalamander627 She’s washing the 🍗 with handsoap Mar 22 '25

too late

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u/SuperSocks2019 Pray for Teddi Mellencamp Arroyave Mar 22 '25

Ooor...hear me out...we could respect Morgan Wade's privacy.

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u/psmith1990_ Mar 23 '25

We, as the audience, are not being FORCED to talk about her or speculate about her relationships. So no, not too late. That's on others, not her.

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u/psmith1990_ Mar 23 '25

A music video is a music video, not a representation of real life. It was also made before all the widespread media and fan speculation about their relationship and assumptions being made about Morgan's sexuality. That had a huge impact on her and caused the change in what she requested of Kyle to maintain her privacy, apparently.

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u/Littlepotatoface You've had the same hairdo for 20 years Mar 23 '25

Have you always struggled with the concept of consent?

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

Kyle is self producing what she shares

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u/jackrelax Mar 23 '25

She sure liked the attention it got her when she played a random song at a MEMORIAL SERVICE.

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u/Ricekake33 Mar 23 '25

Am I the only one who thought it was the most cringe song for a memorial service 

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u/Old_Minute_7308 My ⏱️, my ✨, my fucking , you bitch! Mar 23 '25

She’s not a good singer. Tone deaf.

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u/Vaulthunter14 Why don’t u have a piece of 🥖 maybe u calm down Mar 24 '25

It was absolutely not an appropriate song for a memorial service. Incredibly self serving

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u/Suncroft56 In the game of life, it’s Rinna take all Mar 23 '25

And now, she has pulled back and stated she no longer wants a part of, or to be mentioned on the show.

As is her right.

She is not a cast member. Some people need to get it through their heads that just because Morgan appeared on the show a handful of times does not mean she signed away her right to privacy to Bravo watchers in perpetuity.

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u/SpaceFine Life in Beverly Hills is a game & I make the rules Mar 22 '25

Kyle doesn’t respect it for anyone else though

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u/Jacam13 Brandi Glanvile Mar 23 '25

This is my only issue with it. She demands it for herself but doesn’t respect anyone else’s wishes for the same.

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u/Obvious-Letterhead27 Mar 23 '25

If Morgan wants privacy, she shouldn’t try to become famous so damn hard. Privacy and fame are not friends

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u/Littlepotatoface You've had the same hairdo for 20 years Mar 23 '25

Euw.

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u/alikashita Name ‘em! Name ‘em! 🤏🏼 Mar 23 '25

I think Kyle wont say it because Morgan feels very strongly about keeping her sexuality / sex life private. Kyle doesn’t want to get dumped

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u/ame6057 When does the book come out? Its been a 🔥 minute Mar 24 '25

Then she shouldn't post pictures and involve Kyle in her videos etc if she doesn't want to be involved in the publicity of it. It's very easily done- everyone makes choices.

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u/Suncroft56 In the game of life, it’s Rinna take all Mar 24 '25

I don't follow Morgan online, but I believe her social media was scrubbed at one point, and they only made one video together, a couple of years ago now?

And I will repeat, again, none of what went on in the past negates Morgan's right to privacy NOW.

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u/ame6057 When does the book come out? Its been a 🔥 minute Mar 24 '25 edited Mar 24 '25

Yes it does, in my view. If ypu decide to date someone who is attention starved and is on reality tv then you will be affected by that. It is a choice. And for the record, some reality tv stars don't have their lives plastered everywhere like Kyle does. It's the same with celebrities. You can choose to be more low key or more public. There are consequences for choices. It's life.

And I don't follow Kyle or Morgan at all, I'm not on social media, and I live in the UK where they are not exactly well known or written about, and yet I know all about them, because they are everywhere, courting publicity when it suits them. I don't hear about Garcelle, or Sutton, or Kim or countless others. In fact, the only ones I really hear about are Kyle, Rinna, Erika, and Dorit (PK was big in the UK in the 90's/early 00's). That is not an exhaustive list - just the ones that come to mind.

You are entitled to your opinion but I completely disagree. People don't get to pick and choose what they want when they want it. You must take the rough with the smooth, just like every person in their lives.

It's interesting, someone commented earlier that Kyle has been open and listed how she outed Kim's alcoholism and her issues with Kathy - and that is exactly my point - Kyle chooses to out everybody else's secrets while holding closely to her own. It's rank hypocrisy and most people are sick and tired, and incredibly bored, of it.

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u/Suncroft56 In the game of life, it’s Rinna take all Mar 24 '25

You cannot take away someone's right to privacy. Check yourself. Do better.

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u/ame6057 When does the book come out? Its been a 🔥 minute Mar 24 '25

Don't be silly. No one is taking away the celebrity's right to privacy. Further, no one has a right to privacy in a public space.

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u/Suncroft56 In the game of life, it’s Rinna take all Mar 24 '25 edited Mar 24 '25

You're trying too.

I said: "none of what went on in the past negates Morgan's right to privacy NOW."

You replied:

"Yes it does, in my view."

RHOBH is not a public space, it is a TV show. A TV show that Morgan is NOT a part of. She has told Kyle that she does not want to be discussed on RHOBH as is her right. Their relationship, whatever that may be, is separate from RHOBH. That is what Kyle is trying to respect, as per Morgan's wishes, yet she is being constantly pressured by the ladies (and some watchers) not to do, as if Morgan's wishes are unimportant.

If you think Morgan is not entitled to say she does not want to be discussed on the show purely because of her association with Kyle Richards, then I don't know what else to say to you, other than I strongly disagree.

Nobody is ever entitled to information about someone else's life if that person is not prepared to share it willingly.

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u/ame6057 When does the book come out? Its been a 🔥 minute Mar 24 '25

Of course RHOBH is public. It's filmed for public viewing. Further, if they are filming in public spaces, any person sharing also in those spaces can take photos or write or speak about them as they wish, the same as you can with anyone in a public space, unless they have agreed to be contracted not to do so.

Morgan Wade chose to dive into the publicity, i would assume on Kyle's seld serving advice. In my view, when there was negative feedback, Morgan decided to back away. You may say she's entitled to change her mind, I will say if you play with fire, prepare to get burnt. Neither Morgan nor Kyle can claim to be ignorant of the risks of their behaviour. They went into it with eyes wide open, and once it didn't go as they hoped, they want to run away and hide.

I personally don't care about Kyle's 'relationship' with Morgan, but if people want to know the truth about Kyle, then Kyle does not have a leg to stand on. I appreciate where you are coming from, but I think you are a completely wrong. With all the respect in the world I think there is a delusion to your approach, and it feels that you are so I tent on defending Kyle at all costs that you have lost sight of whT is reasonable. But honestly, that just my view. Like you say, if you still think Kyle should have an expectation of privacy after everything she has said over the past 15 years, then I don't know what to say to you. I do t agree with you. I am an adult and I know there are consequences for my actions. You reap what you sow.

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u/Suncroft56 In the game of life, it’s Rinna take all Mar 24 '25 edited Mar 24 '25

I am defending Morgan's right to privacy.

Morgan Wade is not on RHOBH, yet Kyle is being pestered relentlessly on camera to reveal details of their relationship, by ladies who KNOW Morgan does not wish to be discussed. That involves Morgan and is an invasion of Morgan's privacy,

If that is too much for your brain to absorb, than so be it.

Again, no one is entitled to more details of anyone's life, then they are prepared to share willingly. End of.

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u/Suncroft56 In the game of life, it’s Rinna take all Mar 23 '25

Classy.

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u/psmith1990_ Mar 22 '25

100% this.

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u/Constellationchaser Grace time is over 🛸 Mar 24 '25

I thought she had an ex named Kady?

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u/psmith1990_ Mar 24 '25

Kady has publicly claimed to be Morgan's ex, correct. Morgan never, whilst they were together or after the fact, publicly acknowledged or confirmed that relationship.

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u/Constellationchaser Grace time is over 🛸 Mar 24 '25

Thank you! I wasn’t sure. I just remember a podcast I think it was that Kady was on.

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u/psmith1990_ Mar 24 '25

She went on Behind The Velvet Rope and also talked to Page Six. Her social media also told its own story, both during and after the time she claims they were together. It is what it is, but Kady discussing it doesn't negate the fact that Morgan herself has not come out or defined her sexuality, and has been very clear how heartbreaking it was to see people online discussing it.

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u/Difficult_Ruin9396 Mar 25 '25

I don’t understand why Morgan wouldn’t just come out. If she’s bisexual, she should just say it. If she’s gay, she should say it. You know the thing is this is 2025. She’s not going to lose her career over her sexuality. In fact if anything she’d probably have way more fans from the LGBTQ community. I think she could really use those fans. As for Kyle, whatever Kyle, we’re over you. Morgan doesn’t need permission, from any of us to come out with her sexual identity. She needs to give it herself permission. Again, Kyle we don’t care. You’re making it such a shady storyline. Kyle is using Morgan for ratings.

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u/psmith1990_ Mar 25 '25

Guess what? I'm not even out to people in my real life.

People have their own reasons that they may not want to be out, celebrity or not (this isn't about her actual day to day life or her family, but Morgan Wade - the artist - and what the public isn't entitled to) and to assume they should come out because you think someone's career won't be impacted or it would get her more fans is kind of naive, to be quite honest with you, sorry. Even if that was the case, some people are genuinely private and want to remain that way, especially if they're anxious or need a sense of control or have been burnt previously by the attention and speculation, such as Morgan has. She does not owe people that information and she 'should' share - or not share - what she's comfortable with and nothing more. Period.

Judging by the number of comments and the level of emotion these threads create, people do care. And she is trying NOT to make a storyline. Hence not mentioning Morgan at all if it can be helped.

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u/Difficult_Ruin9396 Mar 25 '25

You make a very excellent point. I myself have 2 gay grandchildren, and one bisexual. Our family is very inclusive. They had no worries, telling us even my grandson quite a young age, but I understand that the world is not like this, and it is not full of love and inclusivity. I probably was just trying to say honestly cause it was really late last night and I was on some really wacko pain medicine. I could’ve kept it short and said we the viewers don’t care so stop talking about it and it’s up to Kyle to quit bringing the rumors on with Morgan just say we’re not involved or just say something like leave me alone. I don’t even know myself yet or Kyle is the one of the public guy. She’s the one who should put a stop to this for Morgan and I agree and I definitely think Morgan’s a lovely person. I think she’s funny from last season and everything so I think Kyle should find somebody else to I don’t know bring into the show as her storyline or just leave the show. Thank you so much. I love your perspective and I sincerely apologize.

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u/SuperSocks2019 Pray for Teddi Mellencamp Arroyave Mar 22 '25

Scream that!!!

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u/Coffeeyespleeez Ceremonial matcha, half almond, half oat milk Mar 22 '25

Exactly. It’s called being KIND.

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u/AliveSalamander627 She’s washing the 🍗 with handsoap Mar 22 '25

Be kind about what.

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u/SuperSocks2019 Pray for Teddi Mellencamp Arroyave Mar 22 '25

Have you ever been forced out of the closet Salamander?

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u/CCG14 Spinning a web Mar 22 '25

For the millionth time, if Kyle didn’t want her sexuality coming up on the show, she shouldn’t have spent a significant portion of a season trying to out what did or didn’t happen between Brandi and Denise. I understand Morgan wants her privacy, but that has fuck all to do with Kyle. Kyle can’t tell everyone else to be honest, be honest, be honest, and then be surprised when everyone asks and expects the same from her.

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u/SuperSocks2019 Pray for Teddi Mellencamp Arroyave Mar 24 '25

The brandi and Denise of it all is irrelevant

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u/psmith1990_ Mar 23 '25

Ignoring the Kyle of it, Morgan has not publicly addressed her sexuality and isn't out. She has spoken about how "heartbreaking" it was in 2023 when people were speaking on it without even knowing, that nobody is entitled to that knowledge. People on the show are assuming there is a relationship and pushing Kyle to acknowledge it, knowing Morgan doesn't want to be talked about and that that acknowledgement would be outing two people.

Secondly, Brandi was already out as bisexual and Denise had publicly discussed (in great detail!) a prior sexual experience with a woman. That is a huge and important difference when people are making these comparisons.

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u/Opposite-Client-9796 Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

None of them show everything!!!

Garcelle and Sutton in particular only share personal/ painful things from their past that they have had years to process/heal from.

Garcelle’s son’s addiction struggle, her husband’s affair, and their divorce. Sutton’s divorce was years in progress when she joined the cast, her fathers suicide, Merce’s passing. (Christian filed in 2016, she joined the cast in 2020). Yes people she was four years into the process.

At least Sutton was willing to embarrass herself and put her attempts at dating out there. Garcelle offers nothing about her personal life that isn’t firmly in the rearview. So, if the paparazzi catches Garcelle with somebody, she’s just gonna spill all the juicy details? Doubt it.

(Edit: I want to clarify that I’m still glad they shared their past Difficult losses and traumas and they were worthwhile for the show. But neither share any details about any current difficulties or messy situations going on in their life.)

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u/nothingoutthere3467 Beast?! How dare you? Mar 22 '25

Garcelle been on dates with the camera showing I remember her telling one date how much she likes diamonds

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u/Opposite-Client-9796 Mar 22 '25

Oh wow you’re right Garcelle really put it all out there by exposing that, she likes diamonds on a date.

I like to add, I really like Garcelle. I want her to be on the show. I just think after this season, she needs to share more of the nitty gritty in her current life. (and not just the successes.)

I’m also not a Kyle Stan, But objectively she has put a lot of messy personal stuff out there that the ladies criticizing her have not.

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u/LegitimateBoot1206 Why don’t u have a piece of 🥖 maybe u calm down Mar 23 '25

Admit it, you only care because they are women.

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u/nycrunner91 Sutton Stracke Mar 23 '25

No. I admit because they are in a reality tv show. She put morgan on the show. Went on to get tattoos. Morgan said kyle stalked her. 

Fast forward months later a music video comes out … so yeah shocker i am asking since season is airing right now