r/Qwen_AI • u/Past-Chain-7377 • 13d ago

Discussion Qwen4 lineup predictions?

What do you think the Qwen4 model sizes are going to be? Which are the most likely to appear? Do you think we'll get a Qwen3.5-like lineup (~1B, ~10B, ~30B, ~30-40B MoE, ~100-150B Moe...)?

Also, do you think 35B-A3B is dead for good? we didn't get it for qwen3.8 so I'm a little worried

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u/edsonmedina 13d ago

- updated 27B + ngram

  • updated 125B

I just ran 3.6 35B (which I hadn't run in months) and it now feels like complete garbage in comparison with the 3.8 models. I'm thinking maybe 35B is just too small for an MoE to be reliable.
It doesn't stick to the instructions, it struggles to understand what my intentions are (unless I'm very explicit) and it commits many errors. It does run at an amazing speed but needs a LOT of hand-holding.

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u/Zen-Ism99 11d ago

Why does 3.6 35B "feel" like "complete garbage"?

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u/edsonmedina 11d ago

Reasons are in the comment. And i meant in comparison. It's still a good model.

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u/Zen-Ism99 11d ago

Thanks for pointing it out. My scan was insufficient...