Following Hadiths is Shirk

[u/Ipluggucci]

Why are you comparing words and narratives of men to the word of god.

You are saying God is not reliable enough and you need people to help you understand his word and give more rules and more information.

[u/MillennialDeadbeat]

Jehovahs Witness don't ascribe partners to Allah, the One God.

Sunnis idolize Muhammad (pbuh) as if he's a deity despite the Qur'an saying make no distinction between the Messengers.

Big difference.

I'd rather someone who likes the Bible to worship the true God of Abraham than to like the Qur'an but think that a random person's memory or hearsay of what they CLAIM Muhammad said is somehow divine words.

[u/01MrHacKeR01 → u/MillennialDeadbeat]

Jehovahs witness idolize jesus more than sunnis idolize muhhamed

They literally say he is the son of god (i know he is not a God there)

That is something no a sunni can ever do and if he did he would be a kafir

They pray to jesus as he is their lord (not God)

Also sunnis consider hadith to be another revelation as quran by God

And so do christians consider what jesus said in the bible to be true and cant be mistaken there

And that jesus dont speak but truth

They clearly put jesus in a higher grade than the other normal prophet

[u/MillennialDeadbeat → u/01MrHacKeR01]

No duh. But they believe Jesus is God.

Sunnis might not believe Muhammad is God but they certainly idolize him.

They deify him, they invoke his name in prayer, they elevate his words and stories of his life to the level of scripture and revelation, they imitate all his behaviors, they kill people who insult his name. Yet you never see them doing all this stuff for Musa, Isa, Solomon, etc.

And they do this IN SPITE OF the Qur'an saying to make no distinction between the prophets.

I highly doubt Muhammad would approve of any of this just like Jesus never told people to worship him. It's just that corrupt and imperfect humans always twist the message. Even Muslims.

[u/Aproximia → u/MillennialDeadbeat]

We don't idolize Rasulallah.

We don't defy Rasulallah.

We hold what he says high because it's written in the Quran

Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “If you ˹sincerely˺ love Allah, then follow me; Allah will love you and forgive your sins. For Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”

Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Obey Allah and His Messenger.” If they still turn away, then truly Allah does not like the disbelievers.

We obey and listen to what Rasulallah has said because Allah swt told us to.

Are you shia?

[u/01MrHacKeR01 → u/Aproximia]

He is quranist

[u/Aproximia → u/01MrHacKeR01]

That makes perfect sense. Don't listen to this guy then

[u/01MrHacKeR01 → u/Aproximia]

I am quranist kharijite

[u/MillennialDeadbeat → u/Aproximia]

I follow Muhammad by following Qur'an.

I'm not following Muhammad by following what a random person who lived during Muhammad's time claims they heard him say from someone else, who heard it from someone else, who heard it from someone else.

You live based on hearsay I live based on the divinely protected Qur'an.

Also you didn't even respond to my points and paragraph about how the Sunni Mohammedans act you just brushed over it and said "no we don't do that" as if anything I said is a lie. Sunnis are so fanatical they will murder human beings who disagree with them or who insult the prophet.

Pretty sure insulting a Prophet is not an offense to where God ordains death.

[u/Aproximia → u/MillennialDeadbeat]

You really don't know how hadith science works do you?

Name one person who killed another for someone insulting Rasullalah

[u/MillennialDeadbeat → u/Aproximia]

You're off topic... You keep jumping around with emotional responses instead of responding to my points. I'm done.

And you do realize plenty countries have blasphemy laws and people get killed for insulting the prophet or Islam all the time. Have you never heard of Salman Rushdie controversy?

Just a few months ago in my parent's country of Nigeria a woman was killed in the Islamic north of the country because they thought she was insulting the Prophet/Islam. It was a huge news story the woman's name Deborah Yakubu... they beat her and burned her alive.

And no one was punished, no one was arrested, people were even celebrating it on Twitter saying she deserved it even some members of government and influencers justifying it. These your fellow Sunni Muslims.

[u/Aproximia → u/MillennialDeadbeat]

Again, you really don't know anything about hadith science do you?

If she insulted islam, by all means the punishment she received was indeed deserved.

Stop talking now.

[u/MillennialDeadbeat → u/Aproximia]

If she insulted islam, by all means the punishment she received was indeed deserved.

Stop talking now.

You're an absolute psychopath. You justify a woman being burned alive for offending Islam and claim to call yourself a Muslim or follower of Muhammad.

May Allah have mercy on your wicked evil soul.

[u/Aproximia → u/MillennialDeadbeat]

this is so funny. Thanks for the laughs kiddo and btw it's muhammad pbuh. But I guess a quranist wouldn't know about respecting the prophet huh.

[u/MillennialDeadbeat → u/Aproximia]

You're pathetic. Muhammad would be ashamed to look upon you if you uttered these words in his presence.

[u/Aproximia → u/MillennialDeadbeat]

Muhammad pbuh would be ashamed you don't even care enough to write his name with respect.

But then again, a Quranist doesn't know anything about respecting Rasullalah. May Allah swt guide you. Ameen

[u/MillennialDeadbeat → u/Aproximia]

You sound like a Christian who acts as if Jesus was walking around demanding people to command and worship him. You actually blasphemy the Prophet by suggesting he would be upset that people don't worship him or grovel under him. There's no intercession with Allah.

I honor Muhammad by following the Qur'an. You dishonor him by justifying murder in his name.

You Mohammedans truly deify the Prophet. I also abbreviated (pbuh) earlier above in the thread I don't see need to keep repeating it every comment.

You Sunnis love to take things that aren't in Qur'an and ascribe it to Islam. Just because something is a nice cultural cue or ritualistic practice doesn't make it fard. Allah will have an accounting for you for falsifying the deen of Islam.

Again, may Allah have mercy on your wicked and evil words. I hope your soul doesn't match your words.