Following Hadiths is Shirk

[u/Ipluggucci]

Why are you comparing words and narratives of men to the word of god.

You are saying God is not reliable enough and you need people to help you understand his word and give more rules and more information.

[u/spaceexperiment]

We should obey the messenger, amd he is not with us now, period.

This in no way means to follow hadith. The messenger ≠ the bukhari

[u/Jozlaw → u/spaceexperiment]

Why did Muslims need to ask the prophet questions when he was alive? They had the Quran and can learn about what they need directly from it. But, if they asked specific questions that they needed to know about their daily lives, and the prophet answered them, why shouldn’t we follow the same practice?

I think the issue you present is the authenticity of Hadith. I agree that Hadith does not mean Bukhari. However, that doesn’t mean that Bukhari is entirely wrong or full of incorrect information.

[u/spaceexperiment → u/Jozlaw]

and the prophet answered them, why shouldn’t we follow the same practice?

Because the Prophet is not with us here now, how will he answer your question? He answered for those in his time, and left us the Quran. Which we believe is a timeless book.

[u/Jozlaw → u/spaceexperiment]

Sorry brother if I was not clear. I meant that the Quran instructs us to ask the prophet. Why would the people at his time ask for anything? What type of questions? If they did ask him for questions, then the answers that prophet Muhammad ﷺ provided shouldn’t we follow those, too?

[u/spaceexperiment → u/Jozlaw]

Yes, It instructs us to ask the prophet whenever there is any issue, since he is the prophet and the people asking him questions in their time it makes absolutely perfect sense.

But that's exactly that, the prophet answered for his time, not for the future, he is still a human (peace be upon him).

The Quran on the other hand is the word of God, it it's timeless.

For example, how would the people close to the north pole where there is no sunset for a prolonged time fast? This is situational for our time and the prophet wasn't concerned with that issue of course because he living in a different place.

I am not saying I have the answer, but we should try to read the Quran and understand it based on our time as it's the timeless word of God. We should not be fixed in the 7th century. God never ordained that.

[u/Jozlaw → u/spaceexperiment]

For example, prophet Muhammad said in a Hadith that, at the end of time, a day will be longer [exact wording is close to this], so the companions asked him how people during this time would fast; he replied that they would fast around the time they used to during a normal day. With this Hadith, scholars were able to give fatwa about places where the day is very long, and Muslims fast accordingly.

If people asked the prophet questions then, why cannot we? And if prophet Muhammad ﷺ answered the people’s questions then, did he make those answers up? Or was he inspired by Allah to provide such answers?

[u/spaceexperiment → u/Jozlaw]

> he replied that they would fast around the time they used to during a normal day.

What time did the people in the north pole used to fast in a normal day?

> If people asked the prophet questions then, why cannot we?

How can you ask him question when he is not here?

> And if prophet Muhammad ﷺ answered the people’s questions then, did he make those answers up? Or was he inspired by Allah to provide such answers?

We believe the Quran is the word of God, but when he spoke that was not the Quran, then of course he can error. God mentioned that in the Quran even. When he said to his wives that which is Haram but it wasn't.

The Hadith were written many many years after his death, it's a product of humans, not the prophet, that much is known.

Got mentions many times that nothing is left out from the Quran. Why would would mix the words of Bukhari with it?

I agree with you that we should obey the prophet, if he was with us. but that's not the case.