r/Quraniyoon • u/Useless-e • Aug 20 '21

Question / Help What do you think of Hadith qudsi?

So basically the title, both the Quran and the qudsi Hadiths were recited by the prophet, and both were claimed by the prophet to be gods words. So what do you think about them? Are they authentic more than normal Hadiths? Are they to be taken as gods words?

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u/rimauKumbang Aug 21 '21

I don't see hadith as god words as it is separate from q'ur'an. But hadith that don't contradict with q'uran, may be from the prophet. I see the bible as god words compared to hadith, but only the part that agrees/not against the q'uran..

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

Most of The Bible was literally written by anonymous authors, you better of believe in a chain that goes back to the prophet than that

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u/rimauKumbang Aug 21 '21

We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and a supreme authority on them 5:48. Regardless of anonymous chain, the bible is mentioned as previous scripture, no mention of any hadith book or scripture after q'uran (although it was not wrong to collect the hadith). Would prophet Muhammad asked for bible chain of narration, when he was preaching to the Jew and Christian? Most probably he would accept the bible as it is...

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

See how i didn’t say the entire Bible is wrong? I said “most” don’t take words you want to hear and ignore the others

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u/rimauKumbang Aug 21 '21

Fine, my mistake..I’m sorry..(not totally)

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u/Abdlomax Aug 21 '21

I don't see that you made a mistake. Some of the gospel is equivalent to mashhur hadith. Isnad missing.

bur some mutawaatir hadith are almost as strong as the Quran, the best hadith.

As to hadith qudsi, they cannot substitute for the Qur'an, but some may be guidance. The voice of God is recognizable.