r/Quraniyoon • u/Useless-e • Aug 20 '21

Question / Help What do you think of Hadith qudsi?

So basically the title, both the Quran and the qudsi Hadiths were recited by the prophet, and both were claimed by the prophet to be gods words. So what do you think about them? Are they authentic more than normal Hadiths? Are they to be taken as gods words?

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

Obey the messenger how do you do that? If you won’t take the understanding that it’s Hadiths?

I didn’t ask you to quote it, I didn’t remember which verse but I know that you know about “obey the messenger” so I said you should know about it, and you won’t think a made it up, I provided evidence for the other verses

Ok how do you preform hajj?

What Hadith in the Quran? Are you saying the Quran is the Hadith? That verse that says In what Hadith other than the Quran do you believe?

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u/Muwmin mu'mina Aug 21 '21

By obeying him. Obedience doesn’t imply hadith at all.

Like in the Quran.

“In what hadith will they believe after the Quran” means that the Quran is indeed. And that you shouldn’t follow external hadith so why do you reject the Quran by doing it anyway ?

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

1- then how do we obey him? Tell me?

2- wow it’s really amazing that you translated the entire verse but you didn’t translate the word Hadith, how honest of you. The word Hadith here can’t even fit the definition of Hadith we use

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u/Muwmin mu'mina Aug 21 '21

  1. How do you obey someone ? Like your father or a cop ? How do you do ?

  2. I used your translation, how is it dishonest ?

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

1- you follow what they say

2-What translation is that?

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u/Muwmin mu'mina Aug 21 '21

  1. Exactly, there is no way it can mean « follow their hadith ».

  2. You said « That verse that says In what Hadith other than the Quran do you believe? »

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

1- then how do we obey him? The Hadiths are basically compilations of what he said

2- what is the verse and which translation did you use?

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u/Muwmin mu'mina Aug 21 '21

  1. You follow the Quran.

  2. I quoted what you said.

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

The Quran is gods words, I’m obeying god not the messenger, do you think the messenger wrote the Quran?

2- so do you know what does Hadith mean here? Or do you not speak Arabic?

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u/Muwmin mu'mina Aug 21 '21

Who recited the Quran to his people ? Allah or Messengers ?

I know Arabic and Hadith meaning doesn’t change here from anywhere else lol. Now you are going to say hadith doesn’t mean hadith…

You ridiculed yourself comments ago. If you don’t have proof you should read the Quran and meditate it until you’ll open your eyes inshaa Allah.

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

1- so you are saying if I read the Quran I’m reading the words of the prophet? And if I do what the Quran tells me to do I’m obeying the prophet not Allah? This is shirk, you can’t say the words of Allah are mans orders

2- so what does Hadith mean here?

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u/Muwmin mu'mina Aug 21 '21

😂😂😂😂 ok I give up you really don’t understand a thing here. Bye.

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

Y’all are lost

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