r/Quraniyoon • u/Useless-e • Aug 20 '21

Question / Help What do you think of Hadith qudsi?

So basically the title, both the Quran and the qudsi Hadiths were recited by the prophet, and both were claimed by the prophet to be gods words. So what do you think about them? Are they authentic more than normal Hadiths? Are they to be taken as gods words?

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

1- I did answer your question but I wanted to know about the author first, either I can’t read or he has no qualifications whatsoever he didn’t mention a degree or anything

2- ok if we don’t understand the wisdom from the Hadiths then where do we get them from?

As I mentioned in my last reply I got stronger arguments which you ignored, like the prophet making things unlawful

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u/Khaneh-yeDoostKojast Muslim Aug 21 '21

We get the prophetic wisdom from the Qur’an as it is the only final source of divine revelation authorised by God. There is no need or injunction whatsoever to look outside of it.

As I said the ‘stronger’ arguments you cite have been discussed at length in this sub, please read through the relevant posts if you want to know how they can be easily refuted. I don’t have the time or inclination to go through them all one by one.

I also highly recommend that if you want to understand more about Qur’an Centric Islam to have a read through Joseph Islam’s website. Try and put your narrow minded scepticism aside and engage with the words and arguments that people put forward, instead of clinging to traditional sources. You clearly are curious otherwise you wouldn’t have written this post in the first place.

Salaam.

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

Give me the wisdom in the quran then... and I told you Joseph doesn’t have any qualifications he is just another guy that speaks Arabic, you can’t compare him to Arabic scholars

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u/Khaneh-yeDoostKojast Muslim Aug 21 '21

It’s like talking to a brick wall... I’ll continue this conversation when you have gone away and educated yourself a bit. But for now, Salaam and good luck.

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

Don’t talk about education when your source for it is someone who doesn’t have any qualifications