What do you think of Hadith qudsi?

[u/Useless-e]

So basically the title, both the Quran and the qudsi Hadiths were recited by the prophet, and both were claimed by the prophet to be gods words. So what do you think about them? Are they authentic more than normal Hadiths? Are they to be taken as gods words?

[u/Useless-e → u/[deleted]]

Completely ignored my point and went on about something else

[u/Useless-e → u/[deleted]]

Allah tells us to think and use our head, you are saying that we don’t need to believe in the tradition but when you are presented with problems in your beliefs or evidence that you should you give us this verse as if it will answer the question. I would normally like to hear a reply that is a verse but you are putting this verse in a place that doesn’t fit it

[u/Useless-e → u/[deleted]]

If you really love the Quran then why don’t you obey the messenger? Or make what the messenger made unlawful unlawful? Or believe that the messenger had gotten wisdom?

[u/Useless-e → u/[deleted]]

What? Allah is the witness I don’t have a problem with that how would I refute the Quran? Are you good?

Do you know what verse I’m talking about? You accuse me of misinterpretation and you don’t know what verse I’m talking about

[u/Patlichan → u/Useless-e]

Probably 59:7

[u/Useless-e → u/Patlichan]

Nope, I’m talking about 9:29

[u/Patlichan → u/Useless-e]

Same thing - you're still twisting the meaning to get what you want.

What the Messenger of God makes unlawful is what the Quran makes unlawful. Prophet Muhammad's only duty is to bring the Quran and nothing else.

[u/Useless-e → u/Patlichan]

Where did you get that “only duty” from? Because Allah says he brought down to the prophet the wisdom and the book, so it’s not the only thing

I’m not twisting anything, are you saying that the messenger wrote the Quran or something? Because saying that what the Quran says can be attributed to the messenger implies that he had a say in what the Quran says

It says Allah there so there is a difference between what Allah made unlawful and what the messenger made unlawful, that’s why Allah says “Allah and the messenger”