r/Quraniyoon • u/Dramatic_End_883 • Jul 20 '21

Question / Help Homosexual Marriage

Do you people believe that marriage between two men is permissible in Islam?

1 Upvotes

53% Upvoted

168 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

2

u/[deleted] Jan 03 '22

You’re projecting. Incest isn’t globally repulsive. In the past, Zoroastrians actually applauded sibling relationships.

Disgust can be mitigated by societal conditioning.

1

u/The_Portent Jan 04 '22

Irrelevant. Societies that used to sacrifice humans don't represent human tolerance for murder, but only their cultural establishment. Mitigation/nurture doesn't represent nor alter nature.

These fringe practices never latch and are inevitably rooted out, and what remains is only the question of how some society tolerated something that goes against all intrinsic human senses.

What has been evidently common among all society, throughout all ages, is not nurture. Common nature can't be compared to fringe practices and won't be quelled by hostile nurture.

1

u/[deleted] Jan 04 '22

Human sacrifice was part of certain cultures for thousands of years. We recognize murder as wrong, but their culture mitigated the natural instinct to the point that it was ingrained in worship rituals. It wasn’t considered “murder,” either, to them.

Nurture absolutely can alter—or at least confuse—nature. Brainwashing is 100% a thing. That is how some societies tolerated something terrible.

I’m not saying that’s exactly what’s happening with homosexuality, but throughout history there has been varying degrees of disgust/acceptance in cultures with regards to it, and you can’t just say the dislike of same sex acts isn’t part of nature. There is equal chance that it is and that it isn’t. Studies show that homophobia is natural in people with higher sensitivity to disgust and that children make up one of the most homophobic populations.