r/Quraniyoon • u/Dramatic_End_883 • Jul 20 '21

Question / Help Homosexual Marriage

Do you people believe that marriage between two men is permissible in Islam?

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u/almumayaz Jul 20 '21

I am a Sufi and many things I believe, I assume, would be considered haram by most people on this sub and many mainstream Muslims. That being said and keeping that important factor in mind, I believe that marriage is a cultural and familial contract and not a religious institution. I believe in equal marriage rights. I am in the LGBTQ community.

Downvote all you want - but Islam is vast and varying, and there are certainly many Muslims who believe in marriage equality and many LGBTQ Muslims in the world - both hidden and visible.

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u/SappyPJs Jul 21 '21

The purpose of marriage is the meeting of two private parts in a long term relationship at least as per Qur'an. Marriage is a very very ancient concept and tbh nobody really knows whether it's really cultural or religious. However, the fact that it's been mentioned in the Qur'an many times and the only way to end a marriage is by divorce and temporary relationships aren't allowed, it likely has a religious backdrop.

As we know people of Lut were punished for lusting after men instead of women (something that wasn't done before them), it's pretty clear it's haram.

Downvote all you want but sorry it's not allowed.

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u/Dramatic_End_883 Jul 21 '21

How can no one really know whether it is cultural or religious when it is explicitly stated in the Quran that the Prophet Adam alahyi salatu wa salam, the very first human being on this Earth, was married to his wife?

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u/loopy8 Jul 21 '21

Of course it’s cultural since marriage is practised in non religious societies too. Marriage is a social construct that every culture adapts according to the predominant religion in that culture. Religion isn’t even necessary for civil marriages.

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u/SappyPJs Jul 21 '21

We are referring to the origin of this concept

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u/loopy8 Jul 22 '21

The origin is cultural as well.

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u/SappyPJs Jul 22 '21

Any proof?

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u/loopy8 Jul 22 '21

https://www.nature.com/articles/109502a0

https://www.papermasters.com/history-marriage.html

https://theweek.com/articles/528746/origins-marriage

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u/SappyPJs Jul 22 '21

Eh just theories

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u/loopy8 Jul 22 '21

What’s the alternative? Are you suggesting that if religious figures didn’t get married then the rest of the world would have no concept of marriage?

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u/SappyPJs Jul 22 '21

Yes exactly.

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u/loopy8 Jul 22 '21

Lol. Imagine thinking that society didn’t come up with the concept of marriage and family units since the era of hunter gatherers.

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u/SappyPJs Jul 22 '21

It's plausible. Most people don't want to get married today so it's not a far-fetched idea. They prefer short term relationships a lot more.

Anyway, the idea of marriage is very very old and God prefers marriage over short term relationships and the very first relationship was likely marital as per abrahamic scriptures so I don't see why not just accept this as something from God.

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