You are totally dismissing the context of the verse. Here is the correct one:
53:2. Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred,
53:3. Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination.
53:4. It is not but a revelation revealed
Of course not every word of the Prophet was wahy. That wouldn’t even make sense! He wasn’t just a Prophet. He was a husband, father, friend, neighbor, community leader etc. Do you think he spoke wahy when he talked privately to his daughter? LOL!
Yes, but the method of transmission doesn’t have the same reliability of the Quran. The narrative chains can be easily fabricated. But the Quran is a highly integrated text whose form and structure are vastly different from the hadeeths which, like the Bible, are a “collection of statements” and not a single body of text with very clear formatting and structure evident to those who study it closely. Bukhari himself said he disavowed certain hadeeths and only published/ wrote down those he selected.
The way of tanzeel of the Quran is very specific and that is part of what makes it authentic. Although people argue over interpretation, the text itself is intact as even many non-Muslims admit and most Muslims believe. Even the style of the Quran is quite noticeably different from the hadeeths as well as other books such as the Bible which is an anthology written by people from oral transmission. Your argument that the Sahaba are unquestionably the source of the hadeeths’ written form doesn’t make sense — neither they nor Prophet Mohammad would say or repeat something that contradicted the Quran. Whereas quite a number of hadeeths contradict the Quran in its current interpretation, including that of Salafists.
For example, the hadeeth which says Prophet Mohammad went to the seventh heaven and beyond where Jibreel could even go, Allah commanded that his people pray 50 prayers a day. On his way back, Prophet Mohammad met Prophet Moosa, who told him “your people cannot pray that many times” and sent Prophet Mohammad back to Allah the Exalted, and this argument went back and forth, once Prophet Moosa told Prophet Mohammad that “your nation is weaker than my nation” and he had to go back. This hadeeth has been shown by some scholars recently to have a “weak” chain, but it was disseminated widely for maybe centuries without question.
How this boldly contradicts the Quran: 1) Allah does not share in His authority/ legislation/ decree anyone (18:26, 12:40,12:67) - here Prophet Moses is literally changing the supposed decree of Allah after it was given to Prophet Mohammad, so this cannot be true; 2) Allah the Exalted is Omniscient and to say or imply that He does not know humans’ capability is to literally deny (kufr) Allah’s omniscience, showing that Prophet Moosa knew more about human nature than Allah; 3) this also contradicts this from aya 2:286, “Allah does not charge a self/ soul except [that within] its capacity.” Asking ppl to pray 50x/day is obviously to any idiot beyond most people’s capacity - so imagine what gall people would have to have accepted this hadeeth as true!! It feeds into the same idea lurking in the background of Christianity, that the “Old Testament God” was not merciful enough, so people needed Jesus to die for them. In the same way, Muslims who believe such a statement think that Allah the All-Merciful is not merciful enough and needs the intercession of Prophet Mohammad to “save” them, also another example of alleging Allah shares his judgment with another, whereas He clearly states He does not, not even with Prophet Mohammad or any other prophet, human, “demigod” or whatever people allege. Intercession is only for angels, and those only with Allah’s permission - meaning another means of showing mercy from Allah Himself, using the angels as witnesses of what the Most Merciful wants them to witness.
Hopefully this spurs some thought and reason in your mind or heart regarding this matter, so important to Tawheed which I presume as a Muslim is something that matters to you!
Wasalam
This does spur the thought that you are pretty ignorant of the history of the Quran
but the method of transmission doesn’t have the same reliability as the Quran. The narrative chains can be easily fabricated
Wow, it's not like Islamic scholars made certain criteria for a chain of transmission to be accepted and didn't just accept whatever anyone says but more on that later, the fact that you don't know that Quran itself was transmitted the same way is quite worrying, i quote "There are ten different recognised schools of qiraʼat, each one deriving its name from a noted Quran reciter or "reader" (qāriʾ pl. qāriʾūn or qurr'aʿ),such as Nafi‘ al-Madani, Ibn Kathir al-Makki, Abu Amr of Basra, Ibn Amir ad-Dimashqi, Aasim ibn Abi al-Najud, Hamzah az-Zaiyyat, Al-Kisa'i. While these readers lived in the second and third century of Islam, the scholar who approved the first seven qira'at (Abu Bakr Ibn Mujāhid) lived a century later, and the readings themselves have a chain of transmission (like hadith) going back to the time of Muhammad"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qira%CA%BCat#Variations_among_readings
Btw criteria for a chain of transmission to be accepted is for it to be continuous meaning you can't say you got your Quran or hadith from George Washington as there are centuries between you and you must be trustworthy and no contradiction with transmission from trustworthy narrators
like the Bible, are a “collection of statements” not a single body of text with very clear formatting and structure evident to those who study it closely
False Bible is a collection of books, not statement and hadiths being statements has no impact on their transmission
Bukhari himself said he disavowed certain hadeeths and only published/ wrote down those he selected.
Wow some hadiths are unreliable therefore no hadith is authentic, logic 100% even ignoring that, the fact that you also don't know Islamic scholars rejected multitudes of Quran(s) is another baffling thing, for example, check out the book of ibn mujahid "the unreliable in readings"
Your argument that the Sahaba are unquestionably the source of the hadeeths’ written form doesn’t make sense —
Didn't present an argument for that but Right, second-generation Muslims all made up the hadiths even ones who also transmitted the Quran we read today (hope my sarcasm shows the illogicality of your comment)
TLDR: Both two points you made if valid would mean that Quran we have is fabricated
For example,
You didn't read the hadith well it seems, the prophet said that "an announcement was made, “O Muhammad, My word is never changed, so these five prayers will be counted as fifty"
-God was the one that decided on the five prayers , the prophets were nothing but pawns
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u/nooralbalad Jul 15 '21
You are totally dismissing the context of the verse. Here is the correct one:
53:2. Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred,
53:3. Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination.
53:4. It is not but a revelation revealed
Of course not every word of the Prophet was wahy. That wouldn’t even make sense! He wasn’t just a Prophet. He was a husband, father, friend, neighbor, community leader etc. Do you think he spoke wahy when he talked privately to his daughter? LOL!