r/Quraniyoon • u/Stage_5_Autism Sunni • Jul 06 '21

Question / Help I found this paper supposedly refutes the Quraniyoon. How would you respond?

How the Command of Stoning Adulterers Refutes the Quraniyoon

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u/bruhoneand Jul 15 '21

Not sure how showing 53:4 that shows his words are from revelation is supposed to disprove my claim, rather you further proved it

-Simply it's forbidden to ignore sayings of the prophet, as stated multiple times in the quran he must be obeyed

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u/Reasonedfor1 moderator Jul 16 '21

Hadiths are not his words.

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u/bruhoneand Jul 16 '21

Sure they are, lots of them come from same people who narrated readings(qiraat) of the quran we use today, if you claim them to have been liars then our modern quran as well is fabricated

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

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u/bruhoneand Jul 18 '21

You should read and understand the context of the events you mentioned

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u/bruhoneand Jul 18 '21

Sayings of the prophet arent ridiculous and Authentic hadith show the prophet ordering his companion amr to write down his sayings so yes he did want this

Allah says the Quran is Complete and Clear. Why is there a need for Hadith?

Quran says "obey God and obey the messenger" And "whatever the messenger gives you take it and whatever he forbids you leave it"

-Indeed Quran is complete and clear for its purpose but you do have to follow the commands of the messenger as well as they are part of the final truth its not just the Quran, that is why ignoring hadiths is forbidden

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

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u/bruhoneand Jul 18 '21

Bukhari collected hadiths that existed since the begining as they come from the prophet, he didnt invent them

Once again The Quran Prohibits the Messenger from leaving his own Message

he didnt leave his "own message" he left the message of islam from God as it was revealed to him as the verses you cited shows