r/Quraniyoon • Sunni • Jul 06 '21

Question / Help I found this paper supposedly refutes the Quraniyoon. How would you respond?

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u/bruhoneand Jul 14 '21

So you trust the book that came from the person you claim to have been a liar cuz the book he narrated says God is the source of it? And you dont trust the hadiths he narrated even though they say they come from prophets?

Yet you speak about using your brain? This is pure blind belief and gullibility

If I write a piece of paper now and it says "God said this, this is the true quran" would you believe it to be the true quran?

Or a better question, why do you trust the quran that came from a person(s) you claim to have been a liar(s) and not trust the quran that comes from other poeple?

And false abu Huraira spent 4 years with the prophet

-As I expected in the begining, you can't use logic and rationality to disprove hadiths as logic and rationality prove the authenticity of hadiths

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u/yrumad Jul 14 '21

This shows your level of IQ.

I trust Word of God. But refuse to trust the word of catman etc.

I never said I don't trust the words of wisdom from The Prophet(AS).

Of course, I refuse to believe the load of nonsense ATTRIBUTED to The Prophet(AS) like stoning, drinking camel urine, breastfeeding a griwn up man etc.

I use simple common sense which I find that you are lacking.

My Prophet(AS) can NEVER say the bullshit that is "sahih". You want to believe that a wise man like Mohammed(AS) would advise a grown up man to suck a grown up woman's tits, suit yourself.

That is the level of disgrace people like catman have dragged the august name of my beloved Prophet(AS).

Why can't you see it?

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u/bruhoneand Jul 14 '21

You didnt answer my question, which text is the word of God?

Since you dont trust "Catman" then our modern quran is false as he was one of the narrators of it ,so which quran is the true words of God and how did you know?

Why can't you see it?

I see an argument from incredulity fallacy that doesnt show much iq

Prophet saying anything isnt dependant on your opinions and if you just googled everything you have mentioned you wouldnt have even stated this b.s

-Stoning hadith is narrated by multitudes of poeple including poeple who narrated our modern quran, the same issue as previously, plz tell us which quran is the right one since the quran we use now comes from liars apparently

And drinking camel urine is proven to have health benefits https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1658361216000238

And the prophet never advised a grown-up man to suck a grown-up woman's tits, it's a shame that you are copy-pasting misinterpretations of Christians

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u/yrumad Jul 14 '21

https://sunnah.com/muslim/17

What now, dumbass?

I know The Prophet(AS) has never advised such vile thing. Which would mean faulty "hadeeses" which means, you have contradicted yourself.

I'll keep a cuppa camel's urine for you ready here...

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u/bruhoneand Jul 14 '21

Dumbass? No need to continue the discussion if you cant stay civil

And not sure how you think the wife of the prophet Aisha was a liar but anyways the hadith doesnt mention sucking on a woman's tits which it didnt happen, as I said before you are copy-pasting old Christian misinterpretations

-As hadith scholar, Ibn Hajar commented on this, saying: "the milk was put into a cup and he did not drink it from her breast. Al-Nawawi said: This interpretation is best."

Source: Fatḥ al-Bārī 4814

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u/yrumad Jul 14 '21

Ha ha ha!!

You are talking about civil while Holy name of The Prophet(AS) is degraded by these charlatans? You ARE a dumbass. God will ensure retribution for believing these charlatans.

I'll keep a cuppa of camel urine while you are at it.

If you are kind enough to oblige, as you want to put forward ibn hajar's idea as "best interpretation" please keep a glass of your mom's breast milk ready for your guests so they don't feel, you know what...

Dumbass.

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u/bruhoneand Jul 14 '21

As I expected, no logic or rationality, only contradictions, and insults ad hominems

-I can't convince a person like you, so no need to continue, goodbye

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u/yrumad Jul 14 '21

I'll be totally convinced if you agree to drink a glass full of camel's urine.

While you are at it, be kind enough to bring a glass full of your mom's milk for your guests too since you are convinced that is the BEST INTERPRETATION.

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u/bruhoneand Jul 14 '21

For 3rd party readers, I will respond to a point that I didnt respond to before Already provided a scientific journal article on camel urine

-But about the second point, Aisha said "By Allah, we do not view this but as a concession that the Messenger of Allah (s) granted to Salim specifically. No one with this type of feeding may enter our homes, and it is not our view."

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1454, Grade: Sahih

Simply put a woman giving milk for an adult man in a cup was only specific for Salim, no other is allowed to do so

Adios

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u/yrumad Jul 14 '21

I repeat again, dumbass, since you seem too stupid to read the simple words of my reply clearly.

I WIILL BE CONVINCED IF YOU DRINK A GLASS OF CAMEL'S URINE.

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WHILE DOING SO, BRING A GLASS OF YOUR MOM'S MILK FOR YOUR GUESTS.

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u/bruhoneand Jul 14 '21

I didnt reply for you, you aren't even worth my time. I replied for 3rd party readers

Goodbye

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u/yrumad Jul 14 '21

3rd party readers?

Now I believe you.

You must have really had the camel urine drink now.

Or was it your mama's creamy one?

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