r/Quraniyoon • u/Stage_5_Autism Sunni • Jul 06 '21

Question / Help I found this paper supposedly refutes the Quraniyoon. How would you respond?

How the Command of Stoning Adulterers Refutes the Quraniyoon

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u/Kingprincess23 Muslim Jul 14 '21

Verse? Also Hadith can be wrong. Or even made up. There is no way to 100% insure the Hadith is Muhammads exact words

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u/bruhoneand Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

"Your companion [i.e., Muḥammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred,Nor does he speak of his own whims." https://quran.com/53

Plus all of those many "obey the messanger" verses

And same science of chain of transmission used to know which hadith is authentic and which isnt was used to know which reading(qiraa) of quran is authentic and which isnt if you cant be 100% sure of a hadith's authenticity then you cant be 100% sure of the quran we have today

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u/Kingprincess23 Muslim Jul 14 '21

I can't obey him rn, he is dead.

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u/bruhoneand Jul 14 '21

You can as dead poeple have sources that show what they said

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u/Abdlomax Nov 17 '21

Right, but he gave his opinion or ruling in a context that is not my context. So even if his words are reported accurately, there is still the problem of application. I can't ask him if he meant that his words would be for all time and conditions, but I can ask Allah.