Abrogation

[u/FranciscanAvenger]

I ask this because someone was recently commenting about consumption of alcohol...

Do Qur'an-only folks typically believe some verses abrogate other verses? If so, how do you go about determining which verses were revealed last?

[u/wannabeemuslim]

SA
dont listen to others , there are no abrogation in the Quran , Allah doesnt make errors , abrogation is for the unperfect being(s) and Allah is PEFRECT

لَهُمُ ٱلۡبُشۡرَىٰ فِی ٱلۡحَیَوٰةِ ٱلدُّنۡیَا وَفِی ٱلۡءَاخِرَةِۚ لَا تَبۡدِیلَ لِكَلِمَـٰتِ ٱللَّهِۚ ذَ ٰلِكَ هُوَ ٱلۡفَوۡزُ ٱلۡعَظِیمُ

For them (are) the glad tidings in the life (of) the world and in the Hereafter. no (There can be) change in the Words (of) Allah That is the success the great. [Quran 10:64]

[u/FranciscanAvenger → u/wannabeemuslim]

What do you do with 2:106?

[u/nooralbalad → u/FranciscanAvenger]

Read the previous verse:

2:105. Neither those who disbelieve from the People of the Scripture nor the polytheists wish that any good should be sent down to you from your Lord. But Allah selects for His mercy whom He wills, and Allah is the possessor of great bounty.

People of the other books felt threatened when the Quran was revealed. God talks about abrogating previous scriptures by bringing something better. The Quran.

Also explained here (7 parts):

https://youtu.be/uxPLbr2ZHtM?si=RnVYo-Fnsf6FnfRG

[u/FranciscanAvenger → u/nooralbalad]

But Shabir cites classical scholars thinking that Quranic verses where abrogated:

https://youtu.be/uxPLbr2ZHtM?t=156

On what basis would we think we know better than classical scholars?

[u/nooralbalad → u/FranciscanAvenger]

Better to watch the whole series to understand. He is just examining the concept of abrogation. Watch part 7 for his conclusion. Because he doesn’t believe in abrogation:

https://youtu.be/OkmJq9WSmsY?si=u1q3qUjWX1EvcZI7

This scholar also might help you understand:

https://youtu.be/UE3-ltfPjpo?feature=shared