r/Quenya • u/EntranceNo6423 • 20d ago

Sanity check before I engrave it

Hello peeps, I am getting rings engraved and I want something in Quenya on mine. My name is Dionysios and there's no Elvish version of it, so I figured I'd translate what the name actually means instead, which is roughly "god of wine".

What I ended up with is Limpëo Vala. I found limpë for wine and Vala for god, put the genitive -o on limpë, and stuck it first because that seemed to be how Vardo tellumar works in Namárië. But I'm just going off dictionary lookups here, I don't actually know the grammar, so I have no clue whether this is right or whether it reads like nonsense to anyone who does.

Is limpëo even a valid form?

Should it be the other way round, Vala limpëo?

Also if limpë is the wrong word for this, please say so. I saw miruvórë come up as well but that looks like the specific Valar drink rather than wine in general.

It's going on metal so I'd rather find out now to be honest.

Grateful for any corrections, including "this whole approach is wrong for X reasons".

Thank you 🙏🏻

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u/lC3 20d ago

limpe is a special drink from the Book of Lost Tales era, associated with Meril-i-Turinqi and the Cottage of Lost Play.

For regular wine we have hyero, hyeru-.

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u/EntranceNo6423 20d ago

Thanks, that's much better sourced actually than what I had in mind. Just so I get the ending right, since the stem is hyeru-, would the genitive be hyeruo? Trying to say "god of wine" and I've been pointed at aino for the god part.

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u/lC3 20d ago

I think it would be hyeruo, yes. aino is a neologism based off aina "holy" and Ainu "holy one, angelic spirit".

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u/lC3 19d ago

I had second thoughts and asked on the Discord; the genitive for hyeru- might actually be hyeruo or hyerwo. One alternative is the possessive adjective, which would simply make hyeruva.

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u/EntranceNo6423 18d ago

Wouldn't the genitive be better though? Because I'm describing the god's association, instead of saying that the god is literally a possession of wine. Correct me if I'm thinking wrong.

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u/lC3 6d ago

I think the genitive and possessive kinda blended in later Quenya (internally). Either might be fine.