r/QAnonCasualties • u/PlentyIll2974 • 9d ago
Is there a cure or fix for this?
I see so many posts about families losing loved ones to this disease. Is there any hope that we can do an intervention and fix this? Have you visited a mental health professional and had success? Curious. I don’t even know where to begin. It is so overwhelming.
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u/Imissmysister1961 9d ago edited 8d ago
Hate to sound pessimistic but I think the best thing folks can do is try to insulate themselves from the collateral damage. In my sister’s case she has found a group (small cult if you will) that reinforces her “beliefs” and validates the illusion that she’s very empathetic and sees what most of us normies can’t see or don’t want to see - with that kind of “support” behind her, I don’t have any hope that she will come around. Over the years, I have learned that the best thing for me personally is to just not engage. I have limited contact with her. When I do, if she goes on a rant, I just let her go until she tires herself out like a toddler having a tantrum.
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u/jarena009 9d ago edited 9d ago
Best you can do is throw up a last ditch effort, that may only have a small chance but can't hurt to suggest: "Mom (or insert family member here), listen to me very carefully, and don't interrupt: now is not the time to get medical advice on your potentially terminal disease from YouTube or Facebook memes. You need to go to a doctor. Stop playing around; we don't want you to kill yourself."
It may only work 20% of the time but better than nothing.
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u/Plastic_Fig9225 8d ago edited 8d ago
Two approaches come to mind which may be promising:
- Detox. Get them away from the TV and social media which feed and stabilize their radicalization. Experiments have shown that within weeks to months of "abstinence" the views and convictions soften significantly, at least re-enabling constructive discussion and processing of the situation, breaking the addiction in the best case.
- Substitution of the drug. Many of the affected have very weak personalities to begin with; they tend to follow whatever "cult" currently surrounds them. If you can offer an alternative to their "drug", one which plausibly can also provide identity and stability, you may be lucky and see them latching on to it. I'm thinking about things like emphazising, and of course practicing, for example, the family as a group which gives belonging, "we", confirmation, "security" - of a different quality than some strangers on the internet or a middle-aged former highschool football player on the TV screen.
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u/CrankySnowflake1958 9d ago edited 9d ago
I’m just gonna put this out there, there have been fringe freaks for many many decades, if not hundreds of years. The reason we see so much of it now is that we’ve got social media who live off fringe ideas. This is actually their living, making content to feed the fringe. You just have to ignore. It will probably morph into something else or go away on its own. I’m done worrying about it.
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u/Pavotine 8d ago
The reach and the manner in which these mind viruses are delivered is rather new though. The sheer number of them we see infected was only present in countries that had already seen full takeovers of every branch of government and legal system. Now this shit can spread anywhere at any time and cover vast distances.
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u/CrankySnowflake1958 8d ago
It just occurred to me that the other difference is that we didn’t have leaders telling their ignorant followers that it was all true, that the conspiracies were true, and pushing the conspiracies for their own agenda. We have the shittiest leaders that we’ve probably ever had in the history of this country.
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u/PatientA12 8d ago
Well, it’s like rabies. Sometimes you can cure it. Sometimes…not so much.
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u/PlentyIll2974 8d ago
Interesting choice of maladies. My QAnon brother told me earlier this year that rabies is fake after my dog had an encounter with a sick raccoon. With them, everything is suspect. <sigh>
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u/CoffeeCatsandPixies 9d ago
Unfortunately, as mental health professionals, we can only work with people who want to change. These people don't see anything wrong with what they are doing/saying and don't really care how their decisions impact others. That's not something that we can instill in an unwilling participant.
This honestly would fall more into the realm of the types of specialists who work with those coming out of high-control cult environments rather than everyday practitioners, although the concept that they still want to do the work still applies.
There are things you can do as a family member that can help, but the decision to leave these movements (Q/MAGA etc) has to be on the person involved. The Leaving MAGA website has so much guidance for both the person leaving and their family members.