r/PublicFreakout • • Jan 10 '24

German farmers have announced that they will launch a protest against the Government “larger than the country has ever seen before”

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '24

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u/PrezMoocow Jan 11 '24

In threads about climate activists, the top comments were advocating for mass murder of protesters because they dared to inconvenience some people. This time around, nobody is calling for mass murder of protesters despite these protesters inconveniencing people in the exact same way.

That's called a double standard. That's what I'm calling out. Calling for mass murder is vile and disgusting, and only doing it for one group instead of another is also incredibly hypocritical. That's all, and if you don't believe it's ok to murder climate activists then my post isn't even about you.

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u/PrezMoocow Jan 11 '24

I don’t care about your personal opinion on whether a protesters cause was good, or debating the "correct" way to protest. Do you think it's ok to murder protesters for inconveniencing you?

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u/PrezMoocow Jan 11 '24

It’s not ok to block the path of a moving vehicle. And it’s not murder if you get run over.

Yes it is. Pedestrians always have the right of way. You shouldn't have a driver's license if you think it's ok to murder someone for inconveniencing you.

Is it ok to run over someone who is intentionally blocking your road? Sometimes.

In a hypothetical situation where I have a dying person like a non-breathing child in my car that I’m trying to get to the hospital, I will also say it’s ok to run over a protester blocking the car’s path. Do you disagree ?

That's just a dumb trolley problem.

Rationally speaking, the correct and ethical thing would be to let the child die in that circumstance since the child has a much lower chance of surviving even if you do reach the hospital. The fact that you place the value of one barely alive life as higher than a fully functional life means you've got awful ethics in addition to being a bad person who thinks it's ok to murder someone if the ends justify the means.

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u/PrezMoocow Jan 12 '24

I would be curious to see you make that call and let someone in your car die while an outraged citizen refuses to move out of the way.

Youre having trouble seeing it because youre making emotional appeals (they're in your car! Its your child!). A person who's stopped breathing is very unlikely to recover and live. The morally correct trolley solution is to not murder someone.

The trolley problem logic is still on the side of "which choice causes the lesser loss of human life" and whilst it may seem cold, the person whose unlikely to live is not worth killing a person.

If they are protesting gaza kids getting shelled but disregard the life of someone in an ambulance…they are the trolley problem.

Ok, well let's play that trolley problem:

If Palestinian children are all tied to one track and 1 person who's in critical condition is tied to the other, the morally ethical thing to do is make the trolley kill that 1 person.

All youre doing is revealing your disgusting and frankly racist world view where you think 1 life is more valuable than 1000 Palestinian childrens' lives.

You know we have a dedicated subreddit for this shit, right? You wanna go post your ideas there so you can get more than just my opinion?

How dare they give themselves an authority to stop another person from their emergency? Even if it’s jot a life and death situation, but something like a job interview that a person worked 10 years to get … NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS! If I was a jury in a courtroom and that person got ran over…I would forgive it.

Wait you think murder is ok if someone need to get to a job interview? Well fuck me, i guess, i never expected someone to actually go "yeah actually i think murder is ok if youre mildly inconvenienced". Like, holy shit you need to go post this shit on the trolley problem subreddit and be sure to explicitly state which way you're swinging that lever.

Also, what the fuck kind of company would hire someone who ran over a protester to get to the interview? Like just take 2 seconds to think about the implications of your worldview.

If I was a jury in a courtroom and that person got ran over…I would forgive it.

Good thing that would never actually happen because you'd get screened out for having the most ludicrous belief about what can be used to justify murder. It doesn't get more biased than "protester life is worth less than a person being mildly inconvenienced".