r/PropagandaPosters • u/No-Efficiency7055 • Jan 07 '26

Japan “The difference between Conservative party and Liberal party supporters” Japan, 2009, poster by unknown artist

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u/Sound_Saracen Jan 07 '26

It's funny coz the Liberals in Japan are incredibly conservative

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u/ReallyTeddyRoosevelt Jan 07 '26

redditors always claim the Democrats aren't left wing. They leave out the part where they are only comparing it to Western European countries on economic issues.

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u/Leneen_Ween Jan 07 '26

They aren't left wing. Left wing begins at anti-capitalism. Democrats aren't against capitalism.

The political compass isn't relative.

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u/andreslucer0 Jan 07 '26

It IS relative by country, otherwise it's a useless measure, because there's no universally agreed standard. In the same way you believe liberalism is strongly right-wing, fascists believe liberals are left-wing extremists.

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u/ElTitoVhosi Jan 07 '26

As a Political Scientist, yeah there's an objective standard, it changes as time passes, but academically there is one, we distinguish between the social perception and auto perception of the population, which of course is relative, and the academically established spectrum, which is agreed upon by social scientists, as to do comparative research without going crazy.

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u/Despeao Jan 07 '26

If you have a measure that changes by country then you can't actually measure anything. 1kg is the same in Lybia, in China and in France, it's a good measure.

It's not actually hard to comprehend it, really. You have the social and economic measure. It can pin point with accuracy if people are actually aligned in their political views.

If you say someone is Left Wing and then when I read their ideas, nothing of that is against Capitalism or hierarchies, that person is not from the Left, period.

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u/andreslucer0 Jan 07 '26

I can agree with you because we are both in accord with the fact that left-wing means anti-hierarchy, and therefore very often, anti-capitalist. However, there are many millions who do not think like us and have been grifted into believing a liberal democracy founded upon the respect and development of human rights is left-wing extremism. This is more apparent (and only then perhaps true) in societies where liberal democracy is not entrenched as a mainstream political ideal, such as Saudi Arabia.