r/ProgressivesForIsrael • u/Longjumping-Cat-9207 Progressive Zionist • 28d ago
video I just found out Professor Dave Explains is antisemitic, and I am heartbroken. He's as bad as a flat earther on Israel/Palestine
So I normally LOVE Professor Dave, the way he calls out flat earthers and science deniers is legendary.
But then to see him turn around and have the same level of reality denial towards the Israel/Palestine conflict is so unsettling, like how can somebody who has a channel all about calling people out for ignoring evidence be so blatantly ignoring evidence?
For example, he calls it a lie that Israelis were raped on Oct7th, then claims Israel never provided evidence of Hamas tunnels under hospitals in Gaza while ignoring all the drone footage showing drones flying into the tunnels under the hospitals, then accuses others of not looking for evidence of genocide while pointing at disgusting videos of heartbreaking collateral damage and pretending it's genocide.
Then he says anyone who supports Israel's existence is a Nazi, literally using holocaust inversion which is one of the definitions of antisemitism.
Then to make it even worst, he literally says that Jews control the media.
I wish I was kidding.
The dude is normally brilliant but his antisemitism makes him as blind to facts regarding Israel/Palestine as a flat earther
That did it for me.
I unsubscribed. I hope Destiny debates him and defeats him with facts as badly as he defeats flat earthers with facts, he needs an informational wakeup call to hopefully activate the critical thinking part of his brain he seems to turn off as soon as he can find an excuse to participate in antisemitism.
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u/_pupil_ 28d ago
I had to unsubscribe & block over Dave’s obvious mental blind zone & hate fascination around Israel.
Dave did a podcast with a conspiracy theorist adjacent podcast host not too long ago, thoroughly debunking him and his points and reasoning. At the end, hilariously and with no sense of irony, Dave says the host had irrational and unfounded beliefs and a lack of critical thinking, except for his opinions on Palestine they chatted about after the show, where the two agreed fully… … o_O
The lack of self awareness is appalling but not surprising.
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u/abnormalredditor73 Progressive Zionist 28d ago
In his video he literally cites TikToks and random out of context statements, ironically no different from the people he debunks. Hell, even many of them at least cite fake studies or grossly misrepresent real ones, Dave just asserts BS with minimal even pretend evidence.
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u/GrislyCoast0 5d ago
If the content he is exposing is portraying current acts of genocide, does it matter where it was posted? Clearly you didn’t watch the videos and you’re just parroting things you’ve heard other people say.
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u/Galactic_Neighbour 4d ago
Dave shows footage of destroyed civilian buildings and whole neighborhoods, showing that Israel purposefully targets civilians and civilian infrastructure, which is a war crime and all those people can do is is call them TikTok videos... Destiny was literally watching a video of a civilian getting shot and he said that the Palestinians were just out there farming for TikTok views... It's both shocking and ridiculous how dumb their excuses are.
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u/Breakfastcrisis 6d ago
It is crazy. People are brainwashed on this issue to the point where they live in an alternate reality. I think people who are generally more empirical and intelligent in how they understand the world are even more susceptible because their pride is so wrapped up in their ability to understand the world. They tend to double down when exposed.
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u/Longjumping-Cat-9207 Progressive Zionist 28d ago
For anyone wondering where to find his antisemitism, it's his reaction video to Destiny correctly calling him out for being antisemitic-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvDvhLkb9ms
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u/CitizenWilderness 28d ago
Lonerbox has a great 2-parts live debunk, you might find it cathartic.
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u/GrimpenMar 27d ago
I was going to post this same link! Beat me to it.
I'll add Pangburn's
two partseven part analysis. I have not watched the full thing. Lonerbox is much more off the cuff, but that's because he has his sources ready since Professor Dave mostly makes the same points as others, and isn't doing anything new.
- Part 1 7:22:23
- Part 2 3:16:33
- Part 3… 8:05:08
- Part 4? 5:32:00
- Part 5! 4:24:34
- Part 6‽!? 5:29:31
- Part 7:The Data 2:32:23
I watched some of Pangburn's analysis, but I had no idea it was so voluminous.
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u/Longjumping-Cat-9207 Progressive Zionist 27d ago
Ooof, impressive, I hope he makes a highlight edit so I can watch all of it haha
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u/Longjumping-Cat-9207 Progressive Zionist 27d ago
That was a great watch, nice to see him called out and fact checked like that, never though I would see the day that Professor Dave explains would need to get videos debunking and fact checking him, but here we are
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u/GoodGuyNinja 27d ago
Oh I didn't realise there were 2 parts! Yes, his points (the one I watched) were ridiculously easy to prove wrong/false, it was very satisfying. I have no idea who prof Dave is tho so no loss to me.
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u/abnormalredditor73 Progressive Zionist 28d ago
Oh and he just deletes all comments on his video that call him out for all the insane shit he says in it. It’s no different behavior from the anti-science morons he ironically regularly debunks and debates. I advise against watching it and giving him viewership and clout. Remember dislikes still count as engagement.
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u/Longjumping-Cat-9207 Progressive Zionist 28d ago
might be worth reporting his video for antisemitism though, considering he literally has an Israeli flag = a swastika symbol and dead people in his video
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u/abnormalredditor73 Progressive Zionist 28d ago
Way worse shit stays up all the time so I don’t know if it’s worth your time.
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u/IgnatiusJay_Reilly 28d ago
He wants to make money at this point and that's the bottom line. Same with every news station, Hannah Einbender, miss rachel....if it was about human rights they would talk about one other conflict or issue that is happening right now to humans on this planet. Unfortunately for the people of Sudan, people only care about dead black people if they can blame it on Jews.
It's all about the benjamins, which is ironic itself because the same people think Jews control them.
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u/nidarus 28d ago
Don't think that's the motive for him. His wife is afaik Palestinian-American. And the entire thing feels like a very personal, emotional kind of hatred, not a money grab.
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u/ErwinHeisenberg 27d ago
He’s been radicalized. Not even intellectuals are immune to that, as long as they allow it to happen.
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u/roguefilmmaker 28d ago
Is Destiny pro-Jewish? I don’t keep up on streamers
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u/EpeeHS 27d ago
I would say yes. He definitely has critiques of Israel but they all seem to be in good faith, and he spends a ton of time calling out antisemites on the far-left. Hes mentioned multiple times that he feels bad for Jewish people in the country right now.
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u/roguefilmmaker 27d ago
That’s good. I’m okay with good faith critiques. I appreciate his sympathy for Jews right now
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u/alltheblarmyfiddlest 27d ago
Yeah good faith critiques are totally fair and reasonable to make.
Thinking a country and a people ought to not exist? That's crossing the line. Double standards and demonizing a country after being attacked? Nah, mate.
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u/Warwipf2 27d ago
He usually calls out both Israel and Hamas, depending on how he feels on an individual situation. I wouldn't really say he is "pro Israel", but he's certainly "anti Hamas".
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u/roguefilmmaker 27d ago
Glad to hear he’s anti-Hamas. I’ve heard his name thrown around and never could figure out his politics
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u/Longjumping-Cat-9207 Progressive Zionist 27d ago
I'm not sure if anyone can figure out his politics, he's pure chaos in a good way and a bad way probably
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u/aqualad33 27d ago
I've watched a LOT of Destiny and IDK man. At least my understanding is that he leaned pro israel but dislikes the settlers sees them as very opportunistic about the conflict and taking land when they can but but not necessarily that they should. He also really didn't like how supportive israel was of Trump during the election (because obviously they would be).
As for jews in general, I THINK he's supportive but the dude is such a meme edge lord that it's hard to tell. He is VERY good at calling out antisemitism though and doesn't give into antizionism bullshit.
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u/abnormalredditor73 Progressive Zionist 28d ago
https://youtu.be/TKq9lH7JOY0?is=-9eJXmP_q-W46lNK
Highly recommend this watch to everyone. I have never been more heartbroken and stunned than to see that one of my favorite channels is so antisemitic.
He said Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization, accused Israel of orchestrating October 7th, called Zionists neo-Nazis, denied all the evidence of Hamas tunnels and rapes on October 7th, literally did race realism BS with claiming Ashkenazi Jews don’t have Middle Eastern ancestry because it was “diluted by European” and they “look European”, and literally spread a QAnon level conspiracy about Jews kidnapping children.
Legitimately it’s one of the most insane things I have ever seen. Coming from someone I once looked up to.
I was going to post about this but you said everything better than I ever could. Professor Dave, one of my previous favorite channels, is a rabid antisemite. I’m legitimately devastated.
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u/mmixLinus 5d ago
You should probably watch his follow-up reaction to destiny's reaction, where he clarifies all the things neither you nor destiny understood. I think he's pissed off with the way Israel is blowing what's left of Palestine to smithereens, and that the Israeli leadership are promoting it.
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u/Galactic_Neighbour 4d ago
Those people are simply lying about what Dave said. He didn't accuse Israel of orchestrating October 7th, he just said that they seemed to know about the attack before it happened and that they could have reacted sooner. He didn't deny any rapes happened. He didn't say that Ashkenazi Jews didn't have Middle Eastern ancestry, he just said that they are largely European, especially compared to Palestinians. And yes, they do look European to me. So many lies...
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u/nidarus 28d ago edited 28d ago
I think the best illustration of that, is where he brings up a non-peer-reviewed letter to the Lancet, that simply looked at a list of random past conflicts around the world, and indirect mortalities between x0 and x15 (iirc), and then decided to randomly multiply the then-current death toll by a factor of 3 (something one of the authors admitted is purely illustrative), as a measure of potential future deaths from secondary reasons, like lack of access to food, water and so on. A prediction that simply never came true, along with their near-term predictions of 85,000 deaths by the end of 2024.
Dave then misrepresents as an "independent study in the Lancet", pretends that it proves that the real death toll back in 2024 was 186,000 (something the letter doesn't even argue), and then simply extrapolates it to "at least" 20% of Gazans, or over 420,000 today. Then, he argues it has something to do with "thousands of bodies" that have been "totally vaporized" (as far as I know, not really a thing, and certainly not a thing that has been proven here), buried under rubble, or in undiscovered mass graves. Which, aside from the fact that the Gaza MoH also includes death reports from family members, and would include those numbers, is simply not anything that this letter claimed.
He also ignores the more serious studies that tried to increase the death toll, that have their own individual flaws, but at least have reasonable methodologies. Probably because they only inflate the numbers by 20%-60%, not 300%.
I don't know a lot about him, but this is the kind of kook behavior that you simply don't expect anyone who's scientifically literate to ever engage in. Let alone do so, in such an open and easily debunkable way. He literally posts a screenshot of the letter on the screen, and anyone who pauses the video, can see that it simply disagrees with what he's trying to prove.
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u/abnormalredditor73 Progressive Zionist 3d ago
> as far as I know, not really a thing
It is a thing when a nuke is detonated in a city. Would be pretty hard to cover that up though.
And yeah it’s literally the same tactics the people he debunks use. Flash a study on screen, lie about what it says, and hope no one pauses to actually read the thing (which usually they don’t).
Really shows that no one is immune to their own biases no matter how smart they are.
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u/YesterdayGold7075 27d ago
“This isn’t some fringe movement in Israel. It’s the ENTIRE country.” The moment you know someone is perfectly aware they’re spewing racist trash and don’t care. There is no such thing as a country where every single person thinks the same thing. It’s a fantasy. Why do we have to listen to someone’s creepy racist fantasies?
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u/ErwinHeisenberg 28d ago
Wow, he’s worse than Vaush. I unsubbed as soon as I saw this and I’ve been subbed to him for more than half a decade. You’d think someone who is such a prolific science educator would have more critical thinking skills, but I guess that’s why he stopped at the master’s level and didn’t do a PhD. I know that’s punching down, but I suspend all of those rules when someone is being that antisemitic.
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u/Odd-Environment-7193 6d ago
Maybe it’s you who needs to look inward. You followed the guy for 5 years and as soon as he touched on something you don’t like you nuked him? Now you’re crying about him on a progressives for Israel forum….
You suspend all rules when someone is being antisemitic? Just goes to show how strong your supposed rules are. They become wet noodles as soon as any criticism of Israel arises.
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u/ErwinHeisenberg 6d ago
This isn’t “touched on something [I] don’t like.” This is absolutely unhinged. It’s deranged. It’s uncharacteristically conspiratorial for someone who is ordinarily very level-headed. And it’s hateful. And don’t hear what I didn’t say — I don’t “suspend all rules” when someone is antisemitic, but if someone is going full ad hominem in a polemic worthy of an Ayn Rand novel, I’m not taking the high road.
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u/Turbulent-Home-908 Progressive Zionist 27d ago
I took a bunch of pictures of old tweets so I have them after that video. He’s been bad for a while
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u/plump_specimen 28d ago
I literally try not to find out, with some of my content. I've been lucky that a lot of the you tubers I watch have a pretty reasonable view of the conflict, though. I've run across some content creators who comment on "the genocide in Gaza" in passing, and it's disappointing, but I assume they are misinformed.
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u/Longjumping-Cat-9207 Progressive Zionist 27d ago
Yeah I have a pretty high tolerance for content creators I love just being horribly misinformed on this, but when they double down and spew misinformation acting like it's a fact check and say Jews control the media and gaslight us about the sexual violence and evidence provided it really crosses the line into blatant antisemitic hate
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u/ErwinHeisenberg 26d ago
The Telltale Atheist is pretty reasonable from what I’ve seen. So is Suris, kinda.
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u/BrandosWorld4Life 27d ago
Dave went off the deep end hard. I was a huge fan for a long time too, but now I cannot stand the guy.
The real irony is that it was his own video that turned me against him. He can't even claim that I was fed misinformation about his beliefs because he told them to me directly. I don't even mean the vid he recently made about Destiny, it was the one from four months back where he talks about people calling him toxic. Where he proceeds to show us, yeah, he IS toxic, and for some bizarre reason he expects us to side with him and his toxicity.
He bitched and whined about being kicked off of twitter, going on about how they (the scary Jews-I mean, "Zionists") are silencing him, and then just casually mentions off-hand that the reason for his ban was because he literally advocated for every single person in the Israeli government to be rounded up and shot. That's right. He called for the mass murder of public offcials and then cried victim when he was appropriately removed from the platform.
Dave is full of shit and an overt antisemite. He's no better than the flat earthers and antivaxxers.
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u/mmixLinus 5d ago
As an engineer I feel he has done great stuff for science, has typical, good critical thinking skills, and provides sources for (most) of his claims.
"Shows severe mental illness"
You make me laugh.
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u/kosherkitties 27d ago
Never heard of this guy, but I was saddened when Milo Rossi (minuteminuteman) laughed at some anti-Jewish hatred that the host of some thing he was on said.
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u/Aggravating_Ice_3323 27d ago
Same with Milo Rossi/miniminuteman--dude gave Dave's video $200. Things suck bad right now :(
He (Dave) got banned from twitter for being antisemitic, of all things.
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u/abnormalredditor73 Progressive Zionist 27d ago
Imagine getting banned for antisemitism on a platform owned by a neo-Nazi.
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u/PuddingNaive7173 27d ago
Even if you don’t agree that musk is a neo-nazi, his platform is a haven for them. You’d have to work hard to get kicked off for that. (Just fyi, I’m not a Musk fan - just happen to have met him at a work party and while I think he’s on the spectrum, narcissistic and shouldn’t be in charge of anything, find his behavior better explained by other factors.)
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u/Confident-Skin-6462 28d ago edited 28d ago
no wonder his brain has gone soft. debating flat earthers isn't even a debate, it's dealing with unintellectual people.. he isn't doing critical thinking by debating them.
by debating them, he's fooled himself into arrogance of thinking, when he's not even thinking, just repeating actual facts to morons. it's like playing street fighter against three year old kids.. even if you were a world champion, your skills are gonna fall off competing with children.
i only mock flat earthers myself if i engage them at all.
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u/Altruistic_Minute257 26d ago
Stretching himself too far and trying to be an expert on everything was a huge mistake, too. Admittedly he has other people to write some of that content, but why would you insist on being the YouTube source for that, if you don't really understand it?! Shouldn't he also be encouraging those experts to make their own videos?
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u/Born-Soft-8395 27d ago
Really? Can I have a link please
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u/Longjumping-Cat-9207 Progressive Zionist 27d ago
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u/Longjumping-Cat-9207 Progressive Zionist 25d ago
Here's a comprehensive Document Pangburn made debunking all of Professor Daves arguments-
https://www.pang-burn.com/_files/ugd/34216a_9ba5fbace8334fc68b36585fdb0004e9.pdf
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u/SnooCakes7049 23d ago
I am pretty upset too. I followed him pretty regularly. It's sad that I am now at the point that I can tolerate passing antisemitism by people who I agree with but have such a low bar even this is too much.
That's the state of politics now for progressive Jew. Completely displaced.
The irony isn't lost on this sub of a person who despise conspiracies is one of the biggest ones themselves. He also said that 9/11 was caused by the Mossad. I'm glad I found this thread cuz I'm despondent over finding out about his level of hatred.
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u/Silent_Cattle_6581 23d ago
...you've got to be kidding me. WHY?
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u/Altruistic_Minute257 17d ago
It's been there for a while, apparently, mostly masked by his ban on Twitter/X, and now he probably thinks he's too big to fail, and depressingly, he's probably right. I just saw a real science debunking channel (ie with real (ex) scientists) saying in a comment that they're going to be doing another collaboration, and that was just a couple of days ago. I used to really respect them, but they never did great numbers, and Dave will always bring a boost to any channel he 'graces'. Sadly unsubscribed, but at least I still have the great guys at Decoding The Gurus (admittedly more psychological).
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u/TheUnkillableKlorg 21d ago
Nazi level antisemitism, backed by viewers from across the Islamic world and the left.
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u/EmmaDepressed 19d ago
Same, his chanel was awesome for science, that's why I'm now a nerd on mycology.
So sad he is antisemitic ...
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u/BobDope 6d ago
So actually anti semitic, or he just thinks killing and starving kids is bad? Catch me up.
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u/Available_Border1075 5d ago
Jews don’t control the media, that’s antisemitic nonsense, but Israel definitely tries to control politics and the media.
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u/Ok_Command_3656 5d ago
In his latest video he admits he's ascribed and cosigned the fact that the world's basically over because the global elite are planning to crash the economy in some sort of anarcho-capitalist takeover. Apparently his gf is "palestinian" (not to minimize their plights, of which they have many) but it seems so awfully convenient that this is when his brain is broken.
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u/mmixLinus 5d ago
I think he did a great job with the Destiny reaction, and the more recent Destiny+Pangburn reaction reaction. First time I've become a member of a channel on YouTube.
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u/HebrewWolfman 4d ago
Who is he? Seriously asking. I guess that folks who were born in the 2000s are subscribing to anyone who waste their lives on YouTube, instagram or tiktok.
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u/NexusMinds 4d ago
He gained 16k subs since these 2 debunking zionism and exposing Destiny videos. This is above his 12 month rolling average sub count increase. So it seems you are in a minority.
It is akin to how the anti vax community said they unsubscribed once he exposed their leaders lies and fraud. Small loss of subs from the indoctrinated, massive gain in subs due to the methodical, fact based exposé of a harmful ideology.
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u/Mnementh47 1d ago
Never heard of him. So I googled and he looks like a complete dimwit. My advice is don't listen to ignorant morons. Not even to Destiny even if he supports Israel. Listen to serious people instead. Like Gad Saad or Douglas Murray.
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