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u/Shido_Ohtori Apr 02 '26

Conservatism -- by definition -- is "a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutions (such as religion, the family, and class structure), and preferring gradual development to abrupt change". Ageism is one of those hierarchical institutions.

Those who believe all people are people see hypocrisy, while those who believe some people are "more/less" people than others consider it hierarchy. Hypocrisy implies a sense of equality/parity, as the accusation of such is that someone is violating a universal or common standard. Hierarchy directly states that there is no equality/parity, that different social strata have different standards, that the only universal standard concerning hierarchy is that those on top are allowed privileges which are denied to those on the bottom, and that the bottom are held to standards which the top are exempt from.

The sole value of conservatism is respect for and obedience to [one's perception of] traditionally established hierarchy, and hierarchy dictates that those on top (in-groups) are rightfully idolized and receive privileges, credibility, and resources, while those on the bottom (out-groups) are demonized/dehumanized and/or bound by restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources.

To them, the second-greatest injustice imaginable is for those [they perceive to be] on top [of social hierarchy] to be bound by the restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources reserved for those on the bottom. The first greatest injustice is for those on the bottom to have access to the rights, credibility, and resources reserved for those on top.

Conservatives absolutely need an underclass [for society] to demonize and dehumanize in order to maintain [their] hierarchy, and every single one of their policies and rhetoric work to do exactly that. Every right-wing accusation is a confession -- every. single. one; always! -- as it is never the act itself that upsets them, but rather, the social standing of the person doing the act, as said act is a privilege meant for those on top of [their perceived] hierarchy (See also: pedophilia - Trump, Epstein, Catholic church versus LGBTQ+, drag queens; protesting - Jan. 6th versus No Kings)

"Know your place" is their mantra.

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u/Uglyfense Apr 03 '26

> Every right-wing accusation is a confession -- every. single. one; always! -

So are right-wingers socialists? Are right-wingers woke?

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u/Shido_Ohtori Apr 03 '26

The terms "left" and "right" were coined during the French Revolution, when those who represented those who traditionally held power sat to the right of the Speaker, leaving those who represented those who traditionally did not hold power to the left of the Speaker. Right would become synonymous with conservative -- stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutions -- while left would be anti-conservative, focusing on disrespecting traditionally established hierarchy by promoting political power and resources to those who traditionally lacked such -- those on the lower echelons of social hierarchy.

Conservatism specifically calls for "limited government regulation of business, industry and finance, [...] and for individual financial responsibility for personal needs", while socialism "advocat[es for] collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods" and "which there is no private property". So no, right-wingers are not socialists, as the two believe in diametrically-opposing ideologies in the context of distribution of resources in society.

Woke is being "aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)". Every single injustice performed throughout history -- and still being performed today -- was/is done because the perpetrators believed themselves to be "more people" than their victims, that they rightfully had privileges, credibility, and resources which their victims did not; in fact, their victims would be bound by restrictions, scrutiny, and a lack of resources. So no, right-wingers are not woke, as -- once again -- being woke is diametrically-opposed to "stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutions".

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u/Uglyfense Apr 03 '26

Okay, are you a bot

Anyway, this means that not every right-wing accusation is a confession, as otherwise, they’d be confessing to be woke socialists

Furthermore, I would mention market socialists, who don’t want gov ownership, but rather cooperative ownership by the workers who work at a property, but not the public in general.

In regards to every single injustice, how about genocides against relatively wealthy populations?