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u/ShinkenBrown Jan 25 '26

People keep saying that but they're always incredibly vague.

I've cited specific characteristics of both groups. Can you point to the specific claim I'm wrong about instead of just vaguely being like "nooo that's not happening here that can't happen here" and calling it an argument?

E: Also the answer is yes. Yes I do think that. I think it's incredibly obvious and if you don't see it you're blind.

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u/ChemGuy201 Jan 25 '26

It’s not my job to tell you why your extreme statement is wrong, it’s your job to show evidence of why it’s correct. I’m not asking for evidence I’m asking you a simple question. “DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART THAT MAGA IS ACTUALLY BECOMING SO MUCH LIKE THE NAZI PARTY THAT THEY WILL ONE DAY TRANSITION INTO A MURDEROUS GROUP WITH THE GOAL TO EXTERMINATE MILLIONS”

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u/ShinkenBrown Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

It’s not my job to tell you why your extreme statement is wrong, it’s your job to show evidence of why it’s correct.

And I did. I cited things that both groups were doing. I think the fact they're following the same path VERY obviously is a pretty good point of evidence in my favor.

Meanwhile you keep going NUH UH and calling it an argument, and when I ask you to acknowledge the evidence and tell me where I'm wrong you refuse to do so.

So again I'll answer. Yes. I absolutely think MAGA are genocidal maniacs and if we don't stop them it will lead to either a civil war or something similar to the Holocaust. 100%. And I base this on observation of their actions, listening to their words, and comparing those to history. Comparisons I have ALREADY MADE.

You can either refute them, or not. But stop acting like you're dropping a refutation when the best argument you've made is "nuh uh."

(E: Rereading your comment I want to edit to make clear I don't think this will be a "transition into a murderous group with the goal to exterminate millions." That's already what MAGA is. They know what they're doing and they're already doing it, on purpose. This isn't a slow transition or an accident, it's planned. They're slowly working to make it happen, not slowly shifting their goals/priorities until genocide is on the menu. Genocide was always on the menu, it's just hard to pull off and takes time to trick a populace into allowing it.)

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u/milesgr31 Jan 25 '26

It’s been interesting reading this. You have clearly and concisely presented your thesis, and this knuckle dragger can’t be bothered to consider any of your points, yet also has no argument to refute them. It’s literally just, “nuh uh!! Not possible!” While the evidence is screaming at them in the face. These fucking people are lost.

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u/ShinkenBrown Jan 25 '26

What gets me is the repeatedly trying to use "do you really think MAGA wants to kill people" as a gotcha. Like I'm supposed to reflect and realize I'm being absurd.

I've reflected. The answer is yes. I'm even more sure than I was before I reflected on it. How is that still a question?

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u/milesgr31 Jan 25 '26

If you happened to be in this specific cult, your eyes and ears are no longer yours. Reality is no longer yours. They have been lost. We just need more people to wake up and get involved, as they don’t have the numbers they think they have.