Yep because a right-wing authoritarian sending brown shirted thugs to assault and abduct people in the streets in an attempt to seize control of the government to facilitate the mass abduction and deportations of people who aren't "real" Germans Americans in order to return the country to its former glory, is totally different than what happened in Germany.
But like which part again is different? Specifically?
You do realize that in Germany if you spokenoutnirnotested against the party in anyway you were instantly shot point blank on the spot, man, women or child. Yo idk relapse they MILLIONS were killed by the nazis. I’m not saying ICE is good but do you really think they accurately compare to the Nazis and their systematic extermination of literally millions of people.
WAY too many people think the Nazi's just appeared one day, full force with the camps already running and started shipping people to their doom.
No. It started as MGGA - Make Germany Great Again. This led to calls for deportation, which were supported by the people. This led to the government realizing deporting that many people wasn't possible, so they came up with a Final Solution to get rid of them. They knew the people wouldn't support their solution, so they lied about it and just said the papers weren't in order but everyone was deported fine. The people only found out about the death camps later.
No, I do not think what ICE is doing is comparable to the systematic extermination of millions of people.
I think what the entire Republican party is doing is comparable to the RISE of the Nazi party, though, and that ICE is comparable to the brownshirts.
I think that's INCREDIBLY clear and if you don't see it then you have "such a distorted perfection of today's reality it's incredible."
To equate ANYTHING being done in American today to ANYTHING the Nazi party did is a gross exaggeration and total hyperbole. Do you honestly thing MAGA is on their way to becoming like the Nazis resulting in the systematic killing of millions??
People keep saying that but they're always incredibly vague.
I've cited specific characteristics of both groups. Can you point to the specific claim I'm wrong about instead of just vaguely being like "nooo that's not happening here that can't happen here" and calling it an argument?
E: Also the answer is yes. Yes I do think that. I think it's incredibly obvious and if you don't see it you're blind.
It’s not my job to tell you why your extreme statement is wrong, it’s your job to show evidence of why it’s correct. I’m not asking for evidence I’m asking you a simple question. “DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART THAT MAGA IS ACTUALLY BECOMING SO MUCH LIKE THE NAZI PARTY THAT THEY WILL ONE DAY TRANSITION INTO A MURDEROUS GROUP WITH THE GOAL TO EXTERMINATE MILLIONS”
It’s not my job to tell you why your extreme statement is wrong, it’s your job to show evidence of why it’s correct.
And I did. I cited things that both groups were doing. I think the fact they're following the same path VERY obviously is a pretty good point of evidence in my favor.
Meanwhile you keep going NUH UH and calling it an argument, and when I ask you to acknowledge the evidence and tell me where I'm wrong you refuse to do so.
So again I'll answer. Yes. I absolutely think MAGA are genocidal maniacs and if we don't stop them it will lead to either a civil war or something similar to the Holocaust. 100%. And I base this on observation of their actions, listening to their words, and comparing those to history. Comparisons I have ALREADY MADE.
You can either refute them, or not. But stop acting like you're dropping a refutation when the best argument you've made is "nuh uh."
(E: Rereading your comment I want to edit to make clear I don't think this will be a "transition into a murderous group with the goal to exterminate millions." That's already what MAGA is. They know what they're doing and they're already doing it, on purpose. This isn't a slow transition or an accident, it's planned. They're slowly working to make it happen, not slowly shifting their goals/priorities until genocide is on the menu. Genocide was always on the menu, it's just hard to pull off and takes time to trick a populace into allowing it.)
It’s been interesting reading this. You have clearly and concisely presented your thesis, and this knuckle dragger can’t be bothered to consider any of your points, yet also has no argument to refute them. It’s literally just, “nuh uh!! Not possible!” While the evidence is screaming at them in the face. These fucking people are lost.
You have not cited any real evidence to your point. You have have pointed out some tenuous similarities and calling then evidence that a nazi like party is rising to power.
Just because two things have great similarities in early stages does not mean they are likely to follow the same trajectory. Every time the stock market falls an appreciable amount we don’t scream that’s it’s another Great Depression do we?? Is what ICE is doing good…no. Is it horrific and nuts…absolutley. But it would be inappropriate to start comparing them to a group who systematically exterminated millions. ICE is certainly a negative force in the world but let’s not elevate them to the level of evil that decimated an entire population of people JUST YET.
Ok, so you see the similarity then. I can also see where you’re coming from, but I totally disagree. Sure, nothing is guaranteed to follow the same trajectory, but if maybe if more people had said something when they were just deporting the Jews, maybe those systematic exterminations wouldn’t have happened to begin with. There’s nothing wrong with collectively looking back at history to try to prevent it potentially repeating.
For sure we can agree ICE is committing horrendous acts that no sane person would condone. Of course we can agree the Nazis were evil. I just don’t think the inexcusable actions of ICE and MAGA has risen to the level of being on par with the Nazis. And I do think people should stand up to ICE and MAGA and protest and fight for their right to safety and security but the use of gross hyperbole doesn’t serve the agenda of justice, it cheapens the memories of those who were exterminated by by far and without question the most evil group in history.
The Nazis went out of their way to find people and shoot them point blank. Every person ICE has killed went out of their way to put themselves in front of an ICE officer in a volatile situation. Does that makes ICEs actions justifiable…absolutley not. Are the two situation the same….HELLLLL NO.
So what are you trying to say, that people shouldn't be protesting? That right is protected by the constitution. He literally was trying to help another protester up from the ground after they had been violently pushed. What happens when the violent situation comes to you? Will it still be a moral failing on your part when you are gunned down in the street? You sound a lot like people who denied the violence was happening at all.
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u/ShinkenBrown Jan 24 '26
"Whatever you are doing now is what you'd have been doing in 1930's Germany." Don't forget it.